Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man 1 2 3 4 5 6
- Born: Abt 1340, Stanley, Staffordshire, England
- Marriage (1): Jane Lassells
- Marriage (2): Isabella de Lathom in or bef 1385
- Died: 6 Jan 1414, Ardee, Dublin, Ireland about age 74
- Buried: Jan 1414, Burscough Priory near Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Another name for John was John I Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland & King of Mann.
Research Notes:
From Wikipedia - John II Stanley of the Isle of Man :
Sir John Stanley, K.G. (c. 1350 - 1414 ), was Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and titular King of Mann , the first of that name. The Stanley family later became the Earls of Derby and remained prominent in English history into modern times.
In 1405 he was granted the tenure of the Isle of Man by Henry IV , which had been confiscated from the rebellious Henry Percy, 1st Earl of Northumberland .
He held the following offices:-
Lord Deputy of Ireland between 1386 and 1388.1
Justiciary Ireland between 1389 and 1391.
Justice of Chester in 1394
Controller of the Royal Household in 1399
Lieutenant of Ireland between 1399 and 1401
Steward of the Household to the Prince of Wales circa 1403, later King Henry V
Surveyor of the Forests of Macclesfield , Mare and Mondrem, Cheshire in 1403
Governor of the City and County of Cheshire in 1403
He was invested as a Knight, Order of the Garter (K.G.) circa 1405
Steward of Macclesfield in 1406
He was granted the Isle, Castle, peel and Lordship of Mann, by King Henry IV of England
Sovereign Lord of the Isle of Man in 1406
Constable of Windsor Castle in 1409
Lieutenant of Ireland between 1413 and 1419
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From The Baronetage of England, p. 206:
"William, his son, lord of Stanley, &c. living 26 Edw. III, married Alicia, daughter of Hugh Massey, de Timperly, sister to Sir Hamond Massey, Knt. and had issue by her William de Stanley, lord of Stanley, &c. living 10 Rich. II. Henry, Matildes, and John... John, the younger brother of William aforesaid, married Isabella, daughter and heir of Thomas de Leatham, Knt. (lord of Leatham in Lancashire); from whence are descended the earls of Derby, who have so worthily exerted themselves for their King and country, as is evident in the history of England."
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From http://stanleyroots.co.uk/thenorthwest.htm
"William the Elder's younger brother Sir John de Stanleigh (1340-1414) may also have had other 'younger' sons such as Robert Stanley of Cheshire (see Peter E. Stanley's 'House of Stanley' p.501 & 505), who in 1398 was granted land in Surrey (Patent Rolls). In 1413, the king's esquire Robert de Stanley was granted £20 from customs in the port of London, by Henry V; he was on the Agincourt campaign in 1415, and was again mentioned in letters patent in 1422 (Patent Rolls)..."
"The Stanleys of Lathom and Knowsley in Lancashire
The landowning Stanleys of Stanley in Staffordshire and Stourton in Cheshire established a branch in Lancashire after 1400. In 1385 Sir John de Stanleigh (1340-1414) married the heiress Isabel de Lathom, bringing into his possession in 1406 the estates of Lathom and Knowsley in Lancashire. Having served in Ireland, Sir John was created Ruler of the Isle of Man in 1405. It was his great-grandson, Sir Thomas Stanley, who was created 1st Earl of Derby in 1485, for his famous assistance to Henry Tudor at the Battle of Bosworth."
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From Manx Note Book
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/people/lords/john1.htm
"Sir John was second son of William Stanley of Storeton, Master Forester of Wirral - he was a soldier with an exceptional military record and confident of Richard II who had appointed him deputy to Robert de Vere Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. He married Isabel of Lathom, in 1385, when he was 40 and, due to unexpected deaths of various closer heirs, received from her large estates in southwest Lancashire and Cheshire.
"The Stanleys were adroit at joining the winning side and thus in 1399 he had joined Henry of Lancaster against Richard and, after Henry was crowned King, received several more estates in Cheshire.
"In 1405 he was granted the Lordship of Man in return for his help in suppressing the rebellion in Wales led by the Percies. Legally this was not yet Henry's to give as the current Lord, Henry de Percy, had not yet been attainted - he actually had avoided being at Shrewsbury due to illness and managed to apologise his way out, saving his head but still losing the Island!. This legal error was to cause much trouble during the disputed inheritance of 1594 and the Island was re-assigned to the Stanleys in 1610.
"Initially the grant of the Lordship was for his lifetime only, but in 1406 on payment of 1,300 marks (1 mark = 13s 4d - or for those younger than 40 £0.67) Henry granted it for posterity throwing in the captaincy of Castle Rushen , patronage of the bishropric of Sodor and Man as well as the various royalties etc. then worth some £400 per year for good measure!
"In 1408 he was sent, as Lord Lieutanant, back to Ireland where he died in 1414. His body was returned to Lathom and buried in Burscough Priory near Ormskirk."
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From http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/people/lords/stanleys.htm
"A brief biography, concentrating on their role in Manx affairs, is given under their separate headings; however Robertson in his Tour of 1794 makes the following, rather typical, comment concerning the Stanleys:
"'it may not be improper to observe, that their personal history, except in a few instances, is unconnected with the public transactions of the Island. Being Subjects of England, they generally resided in that country; and so long as their Lieutenants remitted the revenues of the kingdom,they supinely acquiesced in their administration. For more than three centuries this family enjoyed the regal government of Man; yet in so long a period few of them possessed the ambition or generosity to visit their subjects: and when they conferred this honour, either their interests in the Island were threatened, or their personal safety in England endangered.'
"There is a fair amount of truth in this - the Island would appear to have contributed around 20 to 25% of the Derby revenues (figures averaged from those quoted by Coward) and any political activity required them to remain either in London or more usually their Lancashire stronghold."
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From Manx Note Book
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/fulltext/hist1900/ch21.htm:
Sir John Stanley, K.G. (b. 1350? d. 1414), 1 the first of the Stanley family who ruled in Man, does not seem to have visited the island. Sir John, who in his youth had served in Aquitaine, held important posts in Ireland between 1386 and 1391, and on the Welsh and Scottish borders. We have already seen 2 how his services to Henry IV. in 1405 were rewarded. In 1409, he was made Constable of Windsor, and Henry V. sent him, in 1413, to govern Ireland, where he died in the following year. His eldest son, John (d. 1432?),3 by Isabel, daughter of Sir Thomas Latham, visited Man in his father's lifetime, when the " Barrons of Man " and the " worthiest Men and Commons " did " faith and fealtie " to him as " Heyre Apparent."4
Footnotes
1 The information about the Stanleys is taken, for the most part, from Seacome, the family historian, and the Dictionary of National Biography.
2 P. 197.
3 This is the date given by Seacome (edition of 1821, p. 41), but the Dict. of Nat. Biog. (quoting Ormerod, ii. 412; and Collins, Ed. Brydges, iii. 54) gives it as 1437.
4 Statutes, vol. i. p. 4
In 1408, some question seems to have arisen with regard to a claim made on behalf of Stephen, " heir of William Lestroppe his brother, formerly Lord of Man," against which the bishop, abbot, and clergy protested, but nothing is known of the result (Add. Chart. Manx Soc., vol. vii. pp. 247-50 ).
Birth Notes:
Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has b. abt 1356.
http://stanleyroots.co.uk/thenorthwest.htm has b. 1340, d. 1414
Death Notes:
Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has d. 6 Jan 1414 or 1415
http://stanleyroots.co.uk/thenorthwest.htm has b. 1340, d. 1414.
Burial Notes:
Died in Ireland. His body was returned to Lathom (England) and buried in Burscough Priory near Ormskirk.
Noted events in his life were:
• Made: Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, 1385.
• Made: Lord of Man by Henry IV, 1405. in return for his help in suppressing the Percy Rebellion in Wales, although it was not technically Henry's to give.
• Sent to Ireland: as Lord Lieutenant, 1408.
John married Jane Lassells.
John next married Isabella de Lathom, daughter of Sir Thomas de Lathom of Lathom, Lancashire and Johanna Venables, in or bef 1385. (Isabella de Lathom was born about 1364 and died on 26 Oct 1414.)
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