Joan Troutbeck

   Another name for Joan was Jane Troutbeck.

  Research Notes:

Source: http://www.varrall.net/pafg55.htm#1122 has b Dunham, Ches

Rootsweb(?) has b. c. 1457 Mobberly, Cheshire, Eng.

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, Baltimore, 2008, Line 20-35 has "JOAN TROUTBECK, b. 1459, m. (2) Sir William Griffith d. by 1509/10, of Penrhyn, co. Carnarvon, Chamberlain of North Wales, son of Fychan ap Gwilym and Alice Dalton, dau. of Sir Richard Dalton of co. Northampton. (Dwnn II: 167-168)."

From the book Reifsnyder-Gillam Ancestry, edited by Thomas Allen Glenn (Philadelphia, 1902), provided by books.google.com, p. 57-58:

"VII. LADY JANE TROUTBECK, daughter of Sir William Troutbeck, married Sir William Griffith, Knight, of Penrhyn, in the county of Caernarvon, as appear of record in the Visitations of Lewis Dwnn, II, 154-5, Harl. MSS. No. 1424, fo. 135b., also MS. of the celebrated antiquary, Robert Vaughan, of Hengwrt, Known as the Hengwrt MS. 96, p. 603 (vide Montgomeryshire Collections, by the Powysland Club), vol XXV., page 98. The translation of this MS. is as follows:

'Wm. Vaughan (Vychan) Chamberlain of No. Wales (son of Gwilym ab Gruffydd ab Gullym ab Gruffydd ab Heilen, by his 2d wife Sioned (Jonet) D. of Sir W. Stanley of Hooton, Chamberlain of No. Wales and Chester), and had all the land of his father, and the lands also of Paris, (from whom Paris Mountain), by his mother's influence, and in the 18th year of Henry VI. (1440) he got himself made a denizen of England, under covenant that he should not marry any Welsh woman, so he married Alice, dau. and heir of Sir Richard Dalton, kt., by a daughter of Lord Clifford, his wife. Their son, Sir William Griffith, Hael (the Liberal), m. Jane, dau. of Sir Wm. Troutbeck, Kt., by his wife, a sister to Sir Thomas Stanley.'"

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From Welsh Biography Online (http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s1-GRIF-PEN-1300.html) :
"[Sir William Griffith] m. (1) Joan Troutbeck, widow of Sir William Butler of Bewsey, Ches.; her mother was Margaret, daughter of Sir Thomas Stanley (c. 1406-1459), first baron Stanley; William Griffith was therefore nephew by marriage to Thomas, first earl of Derby (1435-1504) - another confirmation of the Stanley connection (Dwnn, Visitations, ii, 167; Penrhyn MSS. 12; D.N.B., liv., 76; Ormerod, Cheshire, ii, 42)."

  Birth Notes:

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has b. abt 1459.

  Death Notes:

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has d. abt 1485 thru 1489.

Joan married Sir William Griffith Lord of Penrhyn Castle, Chamberlain of North Wales, son of Sir William Griffith of Penrhyn, Chamberlain of North Wales and Alice Dalton, in Caernarfon, Caernarfonshire, Wales. (Sir William Griffith Lord of Penrhyn Castle, Chamberlain of North Wales was born about 1445 in Penrhyn Castle, Llandegai, (Bangor), Caernarfonshire, (Gwynedd), Wales and died about 1539 in Penrhyn Castle, Llandegai, (Bangor), Caernarfonshire, (Gwynedd), Wales.)

Joan next married Sir William Botler of Bewsey, Cheshire.