The Johnson-Wallace & Fish-Kirk Families




Sir Robert Whitney and Cromwell Mary




Husband Sir Robert Whitney 1

            AKA: Robert [III] de Whitney
           Born: 1348 - Whitney, Herefordshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 22 Jun 1402 - Pilleth, Radnorshire, Wales
         Buried: 


         Father: Robert de Whitney (1318-Abt 1380) 1
         Mother: 


       Marriage: 

   Other Spouse: Janet Trussell (      -      )



Wife Cromwell Mary 1

            AKA: Maud Cromwell
           Born: 1352
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


Children
1 M Sir Robert Whitney Lord of Clifford and Glasbury 1

            AKA: Sir Robert [IV] de Whitney Lord of Clifford and Glasbury
           Born: Abt 1379 - Whitney, Herefordshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 1441
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Wenllian Oldcastle (      -      ) 1




Death Notes: Husband - Sir Robert Whitney

http://wiki.whitneygen.org/wrg/index.php/

Killed, together with his brother and most of his relatives, at the battle of Pilleth [Bryn Glas], at which Edward Mortimer was captured. Date probably 22 Jun 1402.


Robert de Mascy




Husband Robert de Mascy 2

           Born: After 1098
     Christened: 
           Died: After 1124
         Buried: 


         Father: Hamon de Massey 1st Baron de Dunham (Bef 1056-1101) 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
         Mother: Margaret Sacie (Abt 1077-      )


       Marriage: 

Events

• Living: 1124.




Wife

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


Children
1 M Robert Massey of Sale

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 




Research Notes: Husband - Robert de Mascy

From A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland, Part II, p. 986 "MASSEY."

SIR WILLIAM MASSEY, Knt., 16 HENRY III, son of WILLIAM MASSEY, of Tatton, grandson of ROBERT MASSEY, of Sale, and great-grandson of ROBERT MASSEY, living anno 1124, who was son of HAMON MASSEY, 1st Baron of Dunham Massey, temp. WILLIAM the Conqueror, m. Margaret, dau. and co-heir of Humphrey Rosthorne, of Rosthorne, and was father of

SIR RICHARD MASSEY, Knt., sheriff of Cheshire, 6 EDWARD I, ancestor of the MASSEYS of Denfield, whose representative,

WILLIAM MASSEY, of Denfield and Moss, co. Chester, aged 63 at the Heralds' Visitation of that co. in 1663; m. Dorothy, dau. of George Cotton, of Combermere, co. Chester, and dying in 1682, was s. by his son and heir, " 2


Research Notes: Child - Robert Massey of Sale

Source: A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland by Sir Bernard Burke, Part II (London, 1863), p. 986 "MASSEY"


William de Stanleigh Lord of Stanleigh and Storeton and Alice Massey of Timperley




Husband William de Stanleigh Lord of Stanleigh and Storeton 10 11 12




            AKA: William [V] de Stanleigh Lord of Stanleigh and Storeton, William Stanley of Storeton, Wirral, Lord of Stanley and Hooten William de Stanley
           Born: 1311 - Storeton, Wirral Forest, Cheshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 1360 - Hooton, Eastham, Wirral, Cheshire, England
         Buried: 


         Father: John de Stanleigh Lord of Stanley and Storeton (Abt 1285-Abt 1346) 13 14 15
         Mother: Mabel Hawksket (Abt 1290-      ) 16


       Marriage: Abt 1353 - Timperley, Bowden, Cheshire, England

   Other Spouse: Cecily Congleton (Abt 1315-Bef 1353) - Bef 1336

Events

• Occupation: Master Forester of Wirral.

• Pardoned: for a violent raid on Liverpool "with banners displayed in a warlike manner", 1346.




Wife Alice Massey of Timperley 17 18

            AKA: Alice de Massey, Alicia Massey
           Born: Abt 1339 - Timperley, Cheshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: Abt 1364 - Storeton, Cheshire, England
         Buried: 


         Father: Hugh de Massey of Timperley (Abt 1307-1349) 19
         Mother: Matilda Timperley (Abt 1301-After 1349)




Children
1 F Maud Stanley

            AKA: Matilda Stanley, Matildes Stanley
           Born: Abt 1358
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



2 M Henry Stanley

           Born: Abt 1364
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Agnes Beckington (      -      ) 20




Birth Notes: Husband - William de Stanleigh Lord of Stanleigh and Storeton

Various sources have differing birth, marriage & death dates.
- Birth dates: 1310, abt 1311, 1312, 1319
- Marriage: 1329 (too early)
- Death: 1360, aft 1362, 1398 (unlikely)

http://stanleyroots.co.uk/thenorthwest.htm has b.1311, d. 1360


Death Notes: Husband - William de Stanleigh Lord of Stanleigh and Storeton

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 gives d. abt 1398. Did he really live that long?


Research Notes: Husband - William de Stanleigh Lord of Stanleigh and Storeton

Note: The present researcher has been unable as yet to find an authoritative source that would definitively answer questions about William de Stanlegh's wives, children, birth/death dates, etc. The reader is advised not to rely on this site as its sole source.

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From The History of the House of Stanley from the Conquest to the Death of the Right Honourable Edward, Late Earl of Derby, in 1776, p. 14,
"Sir William, the son of John, and seventh heir male of this spreading house, is styled William de Stanley, senior, Lord of Stanley and Stourton. The twenty-sixth of King Edward III. [1353?] he married Mary the daughter of Hugh Massey, of Timperley, in the county of Chester, and sister to Sir Hamon Massey, of Dunham Massey, by whom he had issue two sons, William and John."

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From http://cybergata.com/roots/484.htm :
~George Ormerod's The History of County Palatine and City of Chester, Vol II, Stanley of Hooton pedigree, p. 415, William Stanlegh, lord of Stanlegh and Storeton, grantee of 20 marks per annum in lieu of the forestership, 35 Edward 3, occurs 1 and 11 Richard II, post mortem inquisition, 21 Ricahrd II 10 11 12


Birth Notes: Wife - Alice Massey of Timperley

Various sources have differing birth, marriage & death dates.
- Birth dates: abt 1329, 1339, abt 1338
- Marriage: 1329
- Death: abt 1364

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919
gives b. abt 1329


Research Notes: Wife - Alice Massey of Timperley

From Ancestral Roots, line 57-34 (Isabel de Lathom):
"[Sir John Stanley, K.G. was] son of William Stanley, of Storeton in Wirral., d. 1360, said to have mar. Alice Massey, dau. of Hugh Massey of Timperley (but there is no proof of marr.)."
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From http://cybergata.com/roots/484.htm, quoting Cokayne's Complete Peerage, (Stanley), 247, "He is said to have married Alicia Massey, daughter of Hugh Massey of Timperley, but there is no real evidence to back this."

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From The History of the House of Stanley from the Conquest to the Death of the Right Honourable Edward, Late Earl of Derby, in 1776, p. 14,
"Sir William, the son of John, and seventh heir male of this spreading house, is styled William de Stanley, senior, Lord of Stanley and Stourton. The twenty-sixth of King Edward III. [1353?] he married Mary the daughter of Hugh Massey, of Timperley, in the county of Chester, and sister to Sir Hamon Massey, of Dunham Massey, by whom he had issue two sons, William and John."

Were Mary and Alice the same person?? 17 18


Notes: Marriage

Sources have varying dates of marriage: abt 1353 is most likely (26th year of Edward III). 1329 would be too early (before suggested birthdates).

Date of marriage has bearing on birthdate and parentage of Sir William De Stanley.


Research Notes: Child - Maud Stanley

Source: Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919

Source: The Baronetage of England by E. Kimber and R. Johnson, London, 1771, vol. 2 (courtesy of books.google.com), p. 206 has "William, his son, lord of Stanley, &c. living 26 Edw. III, married Alicia, daughter of Hugh Massey, de Timperly, sister to Sir Hamond Massey, Knt. and had issue by her William de Stanley, lord of Stanley, &c. living 10 Rich. II. Henry, Matildes, and John."


Research Notes: Child - Henry Stanley

Source: Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919

Source: The Baronetage of England by E. Kimber and R. Johnson, London, 1771, vol. 2 (courtesy of books.google.com), p. 206 has "William, his son, lord of Stanley, &c. living 26 Edw. III, married Alicia, daughter of Hugh Massey, de Timperly, sister to Sir Hamond Massey, Knt. and had issue by her William de Stanley, lord of Stanley, &c. living 10 Rich. II. Henry, Matildes, and John."



Charles Massey of Denfield




Husband Charles Massey of Denfield

           Born: 
     Christened: 4 May 1661
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: George Massey of Denfield, co. Chester (Abt 1633-1666)
         Mother: 


       Marriage: 



Wife

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


Children
1 M George Massey of Dunham Massey, co. Chester

           Born: 
     Christened: 7 Feb 1695
           Died: 1778
         Buried: 




Research Notes: Husband - Charles Massey of Denfield

Source: A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland by Sir Bernard Burke, Part II (London, 1863), p. 986

GEORGE MASSEY, of Denfield, aged 30 in 1663, who m. Bridget, dau of Thomas Pershall, son and heir of Sir John Pershall, Bart. of Suggenhill, co. Stafford, and d. in 1666 (his will, dated 30 March, was proved by his widow, 18 April, 1666-7), having had issue. The 4th son,

CHARLES MASSEY, of Denfield, bapt. 4 May, 1661; m. Dorothy, dau. of William Millington, and by her (who d. 28 Feb. 1722) left at his decease, 25 July, 1733, a son and successor,

GEORGE MASSEY, of Dunham Massey,


Research Notes: Child - George Massey of Dunham Massey, co. Chester

Source: A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland by Sir Bernard Burke, Part II (London, 1863), p. 986

GEORGE MASSEY, of Denfield, aged 30 in 1663, who m. Bridget, dau of Thomas Pershall, son and heir of Sir John Pershall, Bart. of Suggenhill, co. Stafford, and d. in 1666 (his will, dated 30 March, was proved by his widow, 18 April, 1666-7), having had issue. The 4th son,

CHARLES MASSEY, of Denfield, bapt. 4 May, 1661; m. Dorothy, dau. of William Millington, and by her (who d. 28 Feb. 1722) left at his decease, 25 July, 1733, a son and successor,

GEORGE MASSEY, of Dunham Massey,


George Massey of Denfield, co. Chester




Husband George Massey of Denfield, co. Chester

           Born: Abt 1633
     Christened: 
           Died: 1666
         Buried: 


         Father: William Massey of Denfield and Moss, co. Chester (Abt 1600-After 1663)
         Mother: Dorothy Cotton of Combermere (      -      )


       Marriage: 



Wife

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           Died: 
         Buried: 


Children
1 M Charles Massey of Denfield

           Born: 
     Christened: 4 May 1661
           Died: 
         Buried: 




Research Notes: Husband - George Massey of Denfield, co. Chester

Source: A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland by Sir Bernard Burke, Part II (London, 1863), p. 986

GEORGE MASSEY, of Denfield, aged 30 in 1663, who m. Bridget, dau of Thomas Pershall, son and heir of Sir John Pershall, Bart. of Suggenhill, co. Stafford, and d. in 1666 (his will, dated 30 March, was proved by his widow, 18 April, 1666-7), having had issue. The 4th son,

CHARLES MASSEY, of Denfield, bapt. 4 May, 1661; m. Dorothy, dau. of William Millington, and by her (who d. 28 Feb. 1722) left at his decease, 25 July, 1733, a son and successor,

GEORGE MASSEY, of Dunham Massey,


Research Notes: Child - Charles Massey of Denfield

Source: A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland by Sir Bernard Burke, Part II (London, 1863), p. 986

GEORGE MASSEY, of Denfield, aged 30 in 1663, who m. Bridget, dau of Thomas Pershall, son and heir of Sir John Pershall, Bart. of Suggenhill, co. Stafford, and d. in 1666 (his will, dated 30 March, was proved by his widow, 18 April, 1666-7), having had issue. The 4th son,

CHARLES MASSEY, of Denfield, bapt. 4 May, 1661; m. Dorothy, dau. of William Millington, and by her (who d. 28 Feb. 1722) left at his decease, 25 July, 1733, a son and successor,

GEORGE MASSEY, of Dunham Massey,


George Massey of Dunham Massey, co. Chester




Husband George Massey of Dunham Massey, co. Chester

           Born: 
     Christened: 7 Feb 1695
           Died: 1778
         Buried: 


         Father: Charles Massey of Denfield (1661-      )
         Mother: 


       Marriage: 



Wife

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
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Children
1 M Rev. Millington Massey M.A., of Dunham Massey & Baguley Hall 2

            AKA: Rev. Millington Massey-Jackson of Dunham Massey and Baguley Hall
           Born: 1 Dec 1736
     Christened: 
           Died: 26 Dec 1807
         Buried: 




Research Notes: Husband - George Massey of Dunham Massey, co. Chester

Source: A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland by Sir Bernard Burke, Part II (London, 1863), p. 986

GEORGE MASSEY, of Denfield, aged 30 in 1663, who m. Bridget, dau of Thomas Pershall, son and heir of Sir John Pershall, Bart. of Suggenhill, co. Stafford, and d. in 1666 (his will, dated 30 March, was proved by his widow, 18 April, 1666-7), having had issue. The 4th son,

CHARLES MASSEY, of Denfield, bapt. 4 May, 1661; m. Dorothy, dau. of William Millington, and by her (who d. 28 Feb. 1722) left at his decease, 25 July, 1733, a son and successor,

GEORGE MASSEY, of Dunham Massey,


Hamon de Massey 1st Baron de Dunham and Margaret Sacie




Husband Hamon de Massey 1st Baron de Dunham 3 4 5 6 7 8 9




            AKA: Haimo de Masci, Hamo de Mascy Baron de Dunham, Hamon I De Mascy 1st Baron of Massey, Hammon I Massey Baron of Dunham Massey
           Born: Bef 1056 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 1101 - Dunham, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
         Buried: 


         Father: Viscount William de la Ferté-Macé (1034-1066) 3 21 22 23
         Mother: Miss < > de Conteville [stepmother of Hamon] (Abt 1037/1041-      ) 24


       Marriage: Abt 1099 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England

Events

• Received: Bramall (Bromale), Abt 1070, Bramhall, (Greater Manchester), Cheshire, England.




Wife Margaret Sacie

           Born: Abt 1077 - Dunham, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: Le Sire De Sacie (      -      )
         Mother: 




Children
1 M Robert de Mascy 2

           Born: After 1098
     Christened: 
           Died: After 1124
         Buried: 



2 M Hamon II Massey 25

           Born: Abt 1100 - Cheadle, Cheshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: Abt 1140 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Eleanor Beaumont (Abt 1100-      )
           Marr: Abt 1124 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England




Birth Notes: Husband - Hamon de Massey 1st Baron de Dunham


FamilySearch or Rootsweb AFN: 18GS-7Q3 b. abt 1076


Research Notes: Husband - Hamon de Massey 1st Baron de Dunham

Illegitmate son of William de la Ferte-Macé per most sources.

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From Wikipedia - Hamon de Massey 2 Dec 2010:

The first Hamon de Massey was the owner of the manors of Agden , Baguley , Bowdon , Dunham , Hale and Little Bollington after the Norman conquest of England in 1066, taking over from the Saxon thegn Aelfward according to the Domesday Book .[1]

The name of Hamon de Massey was passed on to his descendants for several generations. There are several different ways of spelling the name, including "de Masci", "de Mace", "de Macei", "de Mascy", "de Massy" and "de Massie".

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From Wikipedia - Dunham Massey

The Chester to York Roman road passes between the settlements of Dunham Massey and Bowdon and today forms the boundary between the two places. The name Dunham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon dun, meaning hill. The Massey element of the name is a result of its ownership by the Massey Barons. The manor of Dunham is recorded in the Domesday Book of 1086 as having belonged to the Saxon thegn Aelfward before the Norman Conquest and to Hamo de Masci after. De Masci was an influential baron, who also had control over the manors of Baguley , Bowdon , Hale , Partington , and Timperley . The addition of "Massey" to the name Dunham reflects the manor's importance within the barony; Dunham was the seat of the Masseys. The importance of Dunham is further emphasised by the presence of two of de Massey's castles: Dunham Castle and Watch Hill Castle on the border with Bowdon; a third, Ullerwood Castle , was near Hale. The Masseys remained barons of Dunham and its environs until the 14th century, when the line became extinct.

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From Wikipedia - Bramall Hall 17 March 2011:

Bramall Hall is a Tudor manor house in Bramhall , within the Metropolitan Borough of Stockport , Greater Manchester, England. It is a timber-framed building, the oldest parts of which date from the 14th century, with later additions from the 16th and 19th centuries. The house, which functions as a museum, and its 70 acres (28 ha) of landscaped parkland with lakes, woodland, and gardens are open to the public.

Dating back to Anglo-Saxon England , the manor of Bramall was first described in the Domesday Book in 1086, when it was held by the Masseys. From the late 14th century it was owned by the Davenports who built the present house, and remained lords of the manor for about 500 years before selling the estate of nearly 2,000 acres in 1877 to the Manchester Freeholders' Company, a property company formed expressly for the purpose of exploiting the estate's potential for residential building development. The Hall and a residual park of over 50 acres was sold on by the Freeholders (though not the lordship of the manor) to the Nevill family of successful industrialists. In 1925 it was purchased by John Henry Davies , and then, in 1935, acquired by the local government authority for the area - Hazel Grove and Bramhall Urban District Council. Bramall Hall is owned now, following local government reorganisation in 1974, by Stockport Metropolitan Borough Council (SMBC), which describes it as "the most prestigious and historically significant building in the Conservation Area".[1]

The name "Bramall" means "nook of land where broom grows" and is derived from the Old English noun br meaning broom , a type of shrub common in the area, and the Old English noun halh, which has several meanings - including nook, secret place and valley - that could refer to Bramall.[2] The manor of Bramall dates from the Anglo-Saxon period , when it was held as two separate estates owned by the Anglo-Saxon freemen Brun and Hacun.[3] The manor was devastated during William the Conqueror 's Harrying of the North .[4] After William subdued the north-west of England, the land was divided among his followers and Bramall was given to Hamon de Massey in around 1070.[3]

The earliest reference to Bramhall was recorded in the Domesday Book as "Bramale" at which time the manor was part of the Hamestan Hundred in Cheshire. With Cheadle and Norbury , Bramall was one of three places described in the Domesday Book that today lie within the modern-day Metropolitan Borough of Stockport .[1] Whereas its value was 32 shillings before 1066, it was worth only 5 shillings by 1086.[5]

In the first part of the 12th century, the manor passed from the second Baron of Dunham Massey to Matthew de Bromale. According to Dean, Matthew's father is said to have founded the de Bromale family, naming himself after the manor, and he may have been related to or a follower of the de Masseys. He may have also held the manor at some point. The de Bromales held the manor until 1370 when Alice de Bromale married John de Davenport , and the family name was changed.[4]


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Genealogy.com (Snell) says he was an illegitimate son (per Wyatt Massey 11/20/1999). Fought at Battle of Hastings and/or served as Mathieu's squire. Mathieu was later killed in battle in Normandy. Hamon was the first to live at Dunham Massey and was known as the Baron de Dunham. He founded the Massey family.

Has death date as 1101 in Dunham, Lancaster, Lancashire, England.

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Herman W. Snell ("Descendants of William De Belleme") quotes from History of Cheshire, by Sir Peter Leycester

"Hamo de Mascy is thought to have been the illegitimate, or "natural" son of William de La Ferte, viscount of the powerful Belleme (Bellamy) family of Normandy. The seat of his holdings was the town of La Ferte Mace (fur-tee ma-cee) located in the present day Orne district. William's oldest son (legitimate) was Baron Mathieu de La Ferte Mace. His youngest (legitimate) was Hugue de Macey. All three sons were present at the Battle of Hastings, 1066, and as a result were given land grants in England. At Hastings, Mathieu's rank was Baron, Hugue's rank was knight, and Hamo served as Mathieu's squire. Mathieu would not live to enjoy his English possessions, as shortly after Hastings he was killed in battle in Shropshire. Hamo received his grants in Chesire and founded the Mascy (Massey) family. The seat of his holdings was the village of Dunham and his family lived at Dunham Massey Hall. His title was Baron de Dunham, and his descendants would continue to live at Dunham Massey Hall until 1458 when it came into the possession of the Booth family by marriage to a Massey heiress. In 1085 the Masseys held nine lordships in Chesire.

Dunham Massey Hall, at the time the Masseys lived in it, was a three winged manor (in the shape of a squared off U) surrounded by a moat. The extensive grounds outside the moat contained a deer park, orchards, a river, and fishing ponds. Later owners made many changes and it bears little resemblance to the old Massey homestead. It now belongs to the British National Trust and is open to the public. It is located four miles spouthwest of Altrincham, which is a suburb of Manchester. "

Sites obtained by Hamon l, in addition the the house in Chester and land in Wirrall peninsula, were Ullerton or Owlarton. It is located approx. two miles south-southeast from the town of Knutsford. Going northwest to the Mersey River, Northeast to Bramhall or Bromhale, which is those days would have been two miles s/w from Stockport, Thence below Stockport to the Mersey River.
With these two lines denoting the s/e/ and s/w/ boundary and the Mersey River being the northern boundary of an area having a triangular shape. At about the midway point of the northern boundary on the Mersey River would be the river crossing to the City of Manchester original location in Lancaster, which lies to the north of Chester.

This probably marks the area with the greatest holdings of the Barons de Mascy in Cheshire. With these lands Hamon de Mascy had lesser Lords who held portions thereof for him or under his 'right'. Examples would be Adae de Carrington and Alano de Tatton. Both constituted Estates granted to Hamon.

In 1092 King William Rufus was a guest at the Court of Hugh Lupus in Chester. at least two of his Barons attended the King, Hamon de Mascy and William Venables. They along with their entourage of adherents and servants of Hamon's, accompanied the King on a hunting expedition in the Wirrall Peninsula. This probably took place on lands which had been set aside as a hunting preserve of the King and treated as his possession, which had not been the subject of a grant, not even to Earl Hugh Lupus. No doubt it was a consequence of some occurrence on this hunting expedition that a new estate was given to Hamon I, in fee of Hugh Lupus.

Pontington, the area which is called today the village of Puddington,was granted by the King him self, so that there after the
de Mascy Cheshire Barons held it in fee of the King rather than in fee of the Earl. For that reason Pontington was in later years especially prized.One can only speculate why King William Rufus made this generous grant. However, as soon as the hunting party returned to Hugh Lupus' Castle at Chester, Hamon sought out a scrivener, possibly a Monk whoes duties were appropriate to the purpose of recording as follows:

"I, William, King of England do give onto Mascy all my right, interest and title to the hop and hopland(valley land) from me and mine with bow and arrow, when I shoot upon yerrow(the place), and in witness to the sooth(action or statement) I seal with my wang tooth."

Inscribed as witness was William Venables "fratre suo". In the consideration given to the first Hamon de Mascy it should be remembered that he was a part of the court and governing body of nobles in Cheshire at a time when it was a county Palatinate under Earl Hugh Lupus. What this means is, that it's rule was like that under a country under martial law. At least Earl Hugh Lupus was not hampered by either King William the Conqueror or King William Rufus and he reigned in Cheshire as King. The Barons and their Lords were almost constantly put to defend against the Welsh on Cheshire's western border and to maintain control over the Saxons who made up the bulk of the population.

Hamon Massey, the first Baron of Dunham-Massy, held the towns of Dunham,Bowden, Hale, Ashley and half of Owlerton in Bucklow Hundred, under Hugh Lupus, Earl of Cheshire in the reign of William the Conqueror. All of which one Edward held formerly, as appears by Domesday Book.So it appears this Edward was dispossessed of his right herein and these lands given to Hamon by Hugh Lupus. Hamon also had land in Maxfield Hundred,Bromhale and Puddington in Wirrall Hundred and other places, at the same time.

[FN:From the History of Cheshire, by Sir Peter Leycester:FN].

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From http://www.springhillfarm.com/broomhall/history.html:
After the conquest the Saxons were ejected and their lands were granted to Normans. BRAMALE (Bramhall) was granted to HAIMO (Hamo, Hamon) DE MASCI (Mascy, Massey &c) as part of the barony of Dunham Massey, the the Macclesfield Hundred. It is linked historically with Brunhala = Bromhale = Broomhall near Wrenbury and Nantwich, through the family of Hamo de Masci, the first baron. 3 4 5 6 7 8 9


Research Notes: Wife - Margaret Sacie

Rootsweb? FamilySearch?


Research Notes: Child - Robert de Mascy

From A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland, Part II, p. 986 "MASSEY."

SIR WILLIAM MASSEY, Knt., 16 HENRY III, son of WILLIAM MASSEY, of Tatton, grandson of ROBERT MASSEY, of Sale, and great-grandson of ROBERT MASSEY, living anno 1124, who was son of HAMON MASSEY, 1st Baron of Dunham Massey, temp. WILLIAM the Conqueror, m. Margaret, dau. and co-heir of Humphrey Rosthorne, of Rosthorne, and was father of

SIR RICHARD MASSEY, Knt., sheriff of Cheshire, 6 EDWARD I, ancestor of the MASSEYS of Denfield, whose representative,

WILLIAM MASSEY, of Denfield and Moss, co. Chester, aged 63 at the Heralds' Visitation of that co. in 1663; m. Dorothy, dau. of George Cotton, of Combermere, co. Chester, and dying in 1682, was s. by his son and heir, " 2


Research Notes: Child - Hamon II Massey

From A History of Altrincham and Bowdon, p. 9:

"The second Hamon had issue Hamon, a son and heir, and Robert Massey, from whom sprang the Masseys of Sale. This is probably the Hamon Massey who is noticed in one of the ancient chronicles as having held the Castle of Dunham against Henry II. in 1173, during the rebellion of which Hugh Earl of Chester was principal leader. He gave the lands of Bramhall, or Bromale, to Matthew de Bromale by charter..." 25


Hamon III Massey and Agatha de Theray




Husband Hamon III Massey 26 27

            AKA: Hamo de Masci [III]
           Born: Abt 1129 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: Abt 1216 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
         Buried: 


         Father: Hamon II Massey (Abt 1100-Abt 1140) 25
         Mother: Eleanor Beaumont (Abt 1100-      )


       Marriage: 



Wife Agatha de Theray 28

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


Children
1 M Hamon IV Massey 29

           Born: Abt 1176 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: After 1250 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
         Buried: 




Death Notes: Husband - Hamon III Massey

Per History of Altrincham and Bowdon, p. 10, "He died about the end of the reign of King John, or the beginning of that of Henry III., and his wife Agatha survived him."


Research Notes: Husband - Hamon III Massey

From http://www.springhillfarm.com/broomhall/history.html:
BRAMHALL (Maccles.) The third baron of Dunham (in Henry II = 1154-89) confirmed to Mathew de Bromale: "the manors of Bramall, Duckenfield and 11 parts of Baggiley which had been previoulsy held by his father, whose name is not mentioned but who was probably youunger son of near kinsman of Hamo deMasci, the Norman Grantee". (Ormerod p 823). Then, in 6 Edwd I (=1272-1307) "Richard de Bromhall obtained release (ie. exemption) for himself and his tenants in Bromhall, Duckenfield and 11 parts of Baguley (sic) from Hamon de Massey, for being impleaded in the courts of Dunham. 26 27


Research Notes: Child - Hamon IV Massey

From History of Altrincham and Bowdon, pp. 11-12:
"Hamon, the fourth baron, was, like his father, liberaly disposed towards the Church, and gave to the Priory of Birkenhead, which was founded by his father, the advowson and donation of the church of Bowdon, as also half an acre of land in Dunham..." 29


Hamon IV Massey




Husband Hamon IV Massey 29

           Born: Abt 1176 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: After 1250 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
         Buried: 


         Father: Hamon III Massey (Abt 1129-Abt 1216) 26 27
         Mother: Agatha de Theray (      -      ) 28


       Marriage: 



Wife

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


Children
1 M Hamon V Massey 30 31 32

            AKA: Hamon V de Massey
           Born: Abt 1212 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: After 1278
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Alice Whitney (      -      ) 31 33



2 M William Massey 31

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



3 F Margery Massey 31

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 




Research Notes: Husband - Hamon IV Massey

From History of Altrincham and Bowdon, pp. 11-12:
"Hamon, the fourth baron, was, like his father, liberaly disposed towards the Church, and gave to the Priory of Birkenhead, which was founded by his father, the advowson and donation of the church of Bowdon, as also half an acre of land in Dunham..." 29


Research Notes: Child - Hamon V Massey

From http://cybergata.com/roots/4054.htm :
Hamon Massy, the 5th, son and heir to the fourth Hamon, gave the advowson of the church of Bowdon unto the priory of Birkenhead in Wirrall, whereunto Richard Massey, Sheriff of Cheshire, was witness, 1278. Hamon, the fifth, married Alice de Whitney, daughter and heir of Sir Eustace Whitney. Hamon V, 1288, was found to be held of the king in capite, by service of five knights fees.

~George Ormerod's The History of County Palatine and City of Chester, Vol I, p. 520 30 31 32


Research Notes: Child - William Massey

Founder of the Masseys of Tatton. 31


Research Notes: Child - Margery Massey

Was given the whole town of Stretford by her father, about 1250. She later released her right in the town to Henry de Trafford. 31


Hamon V Massey and Alice Whitney




Husband Hamon V Massey 30 31 32

            AKA: Hamon V de Massey
           Born: Abt 1212 - Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: After 1278
         Buried: 


         Father: Hamon IV Massey (Abt 1176-After 1250) 29
         Mother: 


       Marriage: 



Wife Alice Whitney 31 33

            AKA: Alice de Whitney
           Born:  - <Herefordshire>, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: Sir Eustace de Whitney (Abt 1205-      ) 33 34
         Mother: Anne Talbot (      -      )




Children
1 M Hamon VI Massey 31

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



2 F Alice de Massey 35

           Born: Abt 1233 - Knowsley, Lancashire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Ralph de Baguley Lord de Baguley (Abt 1230-      ) 36



3 M Robert Massey 37

            AKA: Robert de Massey
           Born: Abt 1251 - Cheshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Alice (      -      )




Research Notes: Husband - Hamon V Massey

From http://cybergata.com/roots/4054.htm :
Hamon Massy, the 5th, son and heir to the fourth Hamon, gave the advowson of the church of Bowdon unto the priory of Birkenhead in Wirrall, whereunto Richard Massey, Sheriff of Cheshire, was witness, 1278. Hamon, the fifth, married Alice de Whitney, daughter and heir of Sir Eustace Whitney. Hamon V, 1288, was found to be held of the king in capite, by service of five knights fees.

~George Ormerod's The History of County Palatine and City of Chester, Vol I, p. 520 30 31 32


Birth Notes: Wife - Alice Whitney

May have been born in Cheshire.


Research Notes: Wife - Alice Whitney

Daughter and heiress of Sir Eustace Whitney. Which one?
Eustace (1205- ), father of Robert (1225- )
Robert (1225- )
Eustace I - (1256-1306)
Eustace II - (1287-1352)
If Alice was around Hamon's age or younger, Eustace (1205- ) was probably her father.
--
Note from http://cybergata.com/roots/4089.htm :
"There may be more than one generation between Robert [de Whitney, d.1242] and the second Eustace de Whitney [1287-1352]. Robert's relationship with either Eustace, his possible father is not certain. I placed everything the best I could from the information available. I placed Robert de Whitney here because the first Eustace de Whitney lived too early to have been the Eustace de Whitney who fathered Alice de Whitney [c.1212-?], wife of Hamon Mascy [1212-1278]. There are likely anywhere from two to six generations missing from the Whitney pedigree which have been lost between Robert de Whitney and the first Eustace de Whitney. I'm not positive where exactly Eustace de Whitney father of Alice de Whitney fits into the pedigree." 31 33


Research Notes: Child - Hamon VI Massey

Sixth and last Baron of Dunham Massey. 31


Sources


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31 Ingham, Alfred, A History of Altrincham and Bowdon (Altrincham: Mackie, Brewtnall and Co., 1879), p. 12.

32 Website:, Hamon Massy, the 5th, son and heir to the fourth Hamon, gave the advowson of the church of Bowdon unto the priory of Birkenhead in Wirrall, whereunto Richard Massey, Sheriff of Cheshire, was witness, 1278. Hamon, the fifth, married Alice de Whitney, daugh.

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