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The Johnson-Wallace & Fish-Kirk Families




John Tessmann and Jennie Belle Lasby




Husband John Tessmann (details suppressed for this person)

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         Buried: 
       Marriage: 



Wife Jennie Belle Lasby 1 2




           Born: 
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           Died: 1959
         Buried: 


         Father: Walter Lasby (1843-1920) 3
         Mother: Lavinia Freeman (      -      ) 1


Events

Occupation: Astronomer and Professor.

Residence: 1910, Santa Ana, Orange, California, United States.

Retired: Santa Ana College, 1946, Santa Ana, Orange, California, United States.


Children

Research Notes: Wife - Jennie Belle Lasby

From Excerpts from....The Lasby Story
by Bill Lasby, Toronto, Canada.. June 18, 1969
(original is 9 typed pages)
at http://www.angelfire.com/in3/vanbrink/lasby.html

The daughter, Jennie, was quite a brilliant person. She was the first lady astronomer in the United States and received an appointment to Potsdam just before the outbreak of the first World War. Going over in the boat to take up this appointment, she met a young German musician who was returning to Germany due to the threat of war. They fell in love at once. Because of the war, Jennie returned to the United States but following the war went back to Germany to find her love. He had been badly gassed and apparently wasn't expected to live long. They were married and as Mrs. Tessman, came back to the United States. Jennie immediately went to work teaching at one of the universities in California and had quite a brilliant career. She had the old Lasby family bible from which she gave me many of the dates and some of the information that is on the chart. Through my correspondence with Mrs. Tessman, I met Mrs. Helen Jeffrey, who was the daughter of William Lasby referred to above. She was a charming lady and became quite a good friend of ours.

Following her Aunt Jennie's death, she intended to go to California to work with Mr. Tessman, then an elderly gentleman, in the winding up of her aunt's affairs. Apparently, many of the Lasby artifacts, including the old Lasby bible, had been kept by Mrs. Tessman. Unfortunately, Helen died quite suddenly and she was the last of the Walter Lasby family. In her will, she left me a beautiful china pitcher that had been brought to Canada by Margaret Challenor-Lasby in 1824.
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From "Mr. Bishop's Telescope 1923 - 1930"
(http://www.cerritos.edu/ladkins/bishop/bishop_history.htm) by Larry Adkins:

"Exactly when [Clyde Bishop] acquired an interest in astronomy is not known, but he clearly was in contact with Jennie Lasby (later Tessmann) almost as soon as she began her teaching career at Santa Ana Junior College in 1919. This can be surmised from the fact that Ms. Lasby is known to have served as Bishop's "technical advisor" in the selection of the telescope and in the construction of the observatory which was initiated shortly after her arrival in Orange County2 .

"I think that the case can be made that Jennie Lasby was the major influence in Bishop's acquiring the telescope and equipping the observatory. Ms. Lasby was a first rate professional astronomer, in the first group of women hired by George Ellery Hale to work at Mt. Wilson, and co-author with future observatory director Walter Adams of a pioneering work on solar spectroscopy <http://www.cerritos.edu/ladkins/bishop/lasby_book.htm> 3 . She was subsequently offered positions with J. C. Kapteyn in Germany (thwarted by World War I) and at the University of Chicago, but she chose to move to Santa Ana to be near her ailing parents. Ms. Lasby received her undergraduate degree from Carleton College in Minnesota and her master's degree from Mt. Holyoke College in Massachusetts. She worked in the observatories of both of these institutions (Goodsell at Carleton and Williston at Mt. Holyoke), and they both had 8" Alvan Clark refractors 4 . It would appear that Mr. Bishop was advised to install a modern (1920s) version of these academic observatories at his home. The earlier telescopes were research grade instruments, equipped with spectroscopes, camera attachments and Herschel wedges for solar observing. The Bishop observatory's 8" refractor had all of these accessories, making it the equal of the institutional instruments. Ms. Lasby makes it clear in several articles published in the 1930s that she expected to do serious work with the Bishop telescope. I have been unable to locate the original spectroscope or the camera attachment, but the Herschel wedge is still in the eyepiece box.

"... [Bishop's] death merited a front page obituary with a large headline in the Santa Ana Register13. His enthusiasm for astronomy and the fact that he had built an observatory at his home was mentioned, though no further details were given. That same year (1927) Jennie Lasby traveled to Germany and married John Tessmann, a German scientist and mathematician whom she had met on her first trip to Europe on the eve of World War I."




Benjamin W. Nicklin and Margaret Lasby




Husband Benjamin W. Nicklin 4

           Born: Abt 1822
     Christened: 
           Died: 
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       Marriage: 26 Dec 1877 - Esquesing Twp (Halton Hills), Halton, Ontario, Canada

Events

Occupation: miller, Acton, Halton, Ontario, Canada.




Wife Margaret Lasby 4

           Born: Abt 1839
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           Died: 
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         Father: Oliver Lasby (1808-1860) 5
         Mother: Mary McTavish (Abt 1818-1890) 6 7


Events

Residence: 1877, Esquesing Twp (Halton Hills), Halton, Ontario, Canada.


Children

Notes: Marriage

Witnesses: Alexander Lasby from Esquesing and Augusta Nicklin from Acton.


George Nicklin and Mary Lasby




Husband George Nicklin 8

           Born: 11 Nov 1809 - Staffordshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 16 Sep 1895 - Harriston, Wellington, Ontario, Canada
         Buried:  - Elora Cemetery, Elora, Centre Wellington, Wellington, Ontario, Canada
       Marriage: 



Wife Mary Lasby 9

           Born: 26 Mar 1817 - Milwich, Staffordshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 6 May 1904 - Berlin (Kitchener), Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
         Buried:  - Elora Cemetery, Elora, Centre Wellington, Wellington, Ontario, Canada 10


         Father: Charles Lasby (1781-1870) 11 12 13 14
         Mother: Margaret Challenor (1784-1856)




Children
1 F Susan Nicklin 15

           Born: 18 Aug 1844 - Puslinch, Wellington, Canada West (Ontario), Canada
     Christened: 
           Died: 2 Mar 1881 - Harriston, Wellington, Ontario, Canada
         Buried:  - Elora Cemetery, Elora, Centre Wellington, Wellington, Ontario, Canada
         Spouse: Martin H. Patmore (living)



Research Notes: Husband - George Nicklin

From Find A Grave:

1891 census: 81 living with wife 74 in Harriston. Also "sister" (does not clarify whose sister), Elizebeth Thurtell 60, widowed.

1881 census: 71 living with wife 64 in Harriston. Also Elizabeth Nicklin 22, relationship unspecified.


Death Notes: Wife - Mary Lasby

From Find A Grave:

Died at 99 Queen St., Berlin, Ontario


Research Notes: Wife - Mary Lasby




Oliver Lasby and Mary McTavish




Husband Oliver Lasby 5

           Born: 27 Dec 1808 - Milwich, Staffordshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 8 Jan 1860 - Acton, Esquesing Twp (Halton), Canada West (Ontario), (Canada)
         Buried:  - Acton Pioneer Cemetery, Acton, Halton, Ontario, Canada 16


         Father: Charles Lasby (1781-1870) 11 12 13 14
         Mother: Margaret Challenor (1784-1856)


       Marriage: 

Events

Sold: 3/4 of an acre to Bethany Church for a cemetery, 3 Oct 1843, Ponsonby Pioneer Cemetery, Ponsonby, Nichol Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada. 17




Wife Mary McTavish 6 7

            AKA: Mary McTavish
           Born: Abt 1818 - <Scotland>
     Christened: 
           Died: 26 Nov 1890 - Halton, Ontario, Canada
         Buried: 


Children
1 F Margaret Lasby 4

           Born: Abt 1839
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Benjamin W. Nicklin (Abt 1822-      ) 4
           Marr: 26 Dec 1877 - Esquesing Twp (Halton Hills), Halton, Ontario, Canada


2 F Catherine Lasby

           Born: 1849
     Christened: 
           Died: 1876
         Buried:  - Acton Pioneer Cemetery, Acton, Halton, Ontario, Canada 18
         Spouse: John Allinson Marshall (      -      ) 19
           Marr: 10 Nov 1869 - Halton, Ontario, Canada


3 M Charles William Lasby 18

           Born: 1855 - <Halton>, Canada West (Ontario), Canada
     Christened: 
           Died: 27 Jul 1883 - <Halton>, Ontario, Canada
         Buried:  - Acton Pioneer Cemetery, Acton, Halton, Ontario, Canada




Burial Notes: Husband - Oliver Lasby

Gravestone reads:
In Memory of Oliver Lasby native of Staffordshire England 1808-1860.
Dau. Catherine 1849-1876
Son Charles Wm 1855-1883

Buried with Oliver are his children Catherine and Charles William.


Research Notes: Husband - Oliver Lasby

From Findagrave.com:
Oliver was married to Mary McTavish born 1818 in Scotland and died 26 Nov 1890 in Halton Co, Ontario, Canada

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This is most likely the Oliver Lasby referenced in this note at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~methodists/pilkington.htm:

Pilkington Cemeteries
Bethany Methodist Lot 10 Con 6 Church Lot 2 Con 9 - The first record for Bethany Church was for the purchase of the land for the cemetery at Ponsonby on the Elora Road. It was bought on October 3, 1843 from Oliver and Mary Lasby for two pounds and was three-quarters of an acre. The cemetery was closed in 1888. Some names on the gravestones are John Allen d 1875 Joseph Hall d 1861 Thomas Howse d 1874 Mary Peckover (Howse) d 1885 Ann Howse d 1881 Levi Patmore d 1872 Mary Lasby d 1876, Joseph Lasby d 1876 13


Research Notes: Wife - Mary McTavish

From Find A Grave (Oliver Lasby):

Oliver was married to Mary McTavish born 1818 in Scotland and died 26 Nov 1890 in Halton Co, Ontario, Canada

Buried with Oliver are his children Catherine and Charles William.


Burial Notes: Child - Catherine Lasby

Catherine is buried with her father, and her brother Charles William.


Burial Notes: Child - Charles William Lasby

Charles is buried with his father, and sister Catherine.


Sylvester Lasby and Mary Louisa Lawrence




Husband Sylvester Lasby 13 20 21




           Born: 6 Sep 1848 - Ponsonby, Nichol Twp, Wellington, Canada West (Ontario), Canada
     Christened: 
           Died: 1 Nov 1903 - Inverhaugh, Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada
         Buried:  - Elora Cemetery, Elora, Centre Wellington, Wellington, Ontario, Canada


         Father: Joseph Lasby (1810-1878) 22 23
         Mother: Matilda Crowder (1818-1854) 24


       Marriage: 8 Dec 1871 - Elora (Centre Wellington), Nichol Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada

Events

Religion: a Methodist.

Owned: (probably) Lot 7S in Concession V, 25 acres, 1877, Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada. 25

Residence: 1871, Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada.

Occupation: Farmer, 1901, Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada.

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Wife Mary Louisa Lawrence 13 26

           Born: 20 Oct 1854 - Waterloo, Canada West (Ontario), Canada
     Christened: 
           Died: 1942 - Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada
         Buried:  - Elora Cemetery, Elora, Centre Wellington, Wellington, Ontario, Canada 27

Events

Residence: 1901, Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada.


Children
1 M Walter Edgar Lasby 28

           Born: 1 Oct 1872 - Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada
     Christened: 
           Died: 1961
         Buried: 



2 M Amos Lasby 13 29

           Born: 21 Feb 1878 - Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada 30
     Christened: 
           Died: 1967
         Buried:  - Elora Cemetery, Elora, Centre Wellington, Wellington, Ontario, Canada



3 M Charles A. Lasby 13 31 32

           Born: 21 Jul 1881 - Pilkington, Wellington, Ontario, Canada
     Christened: 
           Died: 23 Feb 1933 - Guelph Twp (Guelph/Eramosa), Wellington, Ontario, Canada


         Buried:  - Woodlawn Memorial Park, Guelph, Wellington, Ontario, Canada
         Spouse: Nancy Letson (1887-1950) 33



Birth Notes: Husband - Sylvester Lasby

Born on 5 September 1848 according to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~methodists/pilkington.htm


Burial Notes: Husband - Sylvester Lasby

http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/search.php?page=2&surname=Lasby&given=Sylvester has only the name. May not be the same person.


Research Notes: Husband - Sylvester Lasby

Excerpts from....The Lasby Story
by Bill Lasby, Toronto, Canada.. June 18, 1969
(original is 9 typed pages)
at http://www.angelfire.com/in3/vanbrink/lasby.html:

"My grandfather, Sylvester, married Mary Lawrence, a sister of Catherine, and my father and his brothers were very close to this family...
"Sylvester Lasby was my grandfather. He married Mary Lawrence and they had four children, Walter, my father, Lynn, Amos and Charles. Sylvester farmed on a large farm on the town line between Pilkington and Woolwich Township. As a boy, I remember the old log house that they had built and played in it as my father at that time was renting his farm. It overlooked the Grand River. On this farm he built a large brick house which still stands. My sister, Emily, and her family repurchased this Lasby farm some years ago."



Burial Notes: Wife - Mary Louisa Lawrence

http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/search.php has name Mary L. Lasby, no dates. May not be the same person.


Research Notes: Wife - Mary Louisa Lawrence

Sister of Catherine Lawrence, who married Frederick Lasby.


Birth Notes: Child - Amos Lasby

May have been born on 20 Feb 1873 (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tincanman&id=I034252)


Death Notes: Child - Charles A. Lasby

Struck by a train, apparently when in a truck.


William Lasby




Husband William Lasby (details suppressed for this person)

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           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: Walter Lasby (1843-1920)
         Mother: Lavinia Freeman (      -      )


       Marriage: 



Wife (details suppressed for this person)

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Children
1 F Helen Lasby (details suppressed for this person)

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
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Donald Somers Wallace and Nellie Maria Lasken




Husband Donald Somers Wallace 13 34

           Born: 18 Jun 1887 - Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada 35
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: George Alexander Wallace (1854-1931) 36
         Mother: Annie Eliza Somers (1854-1943) 37


       Marriage: 16 Mar 1910 - Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada 38

Events

Residence: 1901, Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada.

Occupation: farmer, 1910, Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada.

Census: 1911, Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada.




Wife Nellie Maria Lasken 39

           Born: Jan 1889 - Ontario, Canada
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: William Lasken (      -      ) 39
         Mother: Mabel Boye (      -      ) 39


Events

Census: 1911, Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada. (Household Member)

Census: 1911, Pilkington Twp, Wellington, Ontario, Canada.


Children

Birth Notes: Husband - Donald Somers Wallace

Some sources have b. 8 Jun 1887, others 18 Jun 1887.


Notes: Marriage

Ceremony performed by Rev. J. H. Dyke at the home of the bride's parents, witnessed by George A. Wallace of Ponsonby and William Lasken of Elora.


Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man and Jane Lassells




Husband Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man 40 41 42 43 44 45

            AKA: John I Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland & King of Mann
           Born: Abt 1340 - Stanley, Staffordshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 6 Jan 1414 - Ardee, Dublin, Ireland
         Buried: Jan 1414 - Burscough Priory near Ormskirk, Lancashire, England


         Father: William de Stanleigh Lord of Stanleigh and Storeton (1311-1360) 46 47 48
         Mother: Cecily Congleton (Abt 1315-Bef 1353)


       Marriage: 

   Other Spouse: Isabella de Lathom (Abt 1364-1414) 49 50 - in or bef 1385

Events

Made: Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, 1385.

Made: Lord of Man by Henry IV, 1405.

Sent to Ireland: as Lord Lieutenant, 1408.




Wife Jane Lassells

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


Children
1 M Robert Stanley

           Born: Abt 1362
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 




Birth Notes: Husband - Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has b. abt 1356.

http://stanleyroots.co.uk/thenorthwest.htm has b. 1340, d. 1414


Death Notes: Husband - Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has d. 6 Jan 1414 or 1415

http://stanleyroots.co.uk/thenorthwest.htm has b. 1340, d. 1414.


Burial Notes: Husband - Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man

Died in Ireland. His body was returned to Lathom (England) and buried in Burscough Priory near Ormskirk.


Research Notes: Husband - Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man

From Wikipedia - John II Stanley of the Isle of Man :

Sir John Stanley, K.G. (c. 1350 - 1414 ), was Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and titular King of Mann , the first of that name. The Stanley family later became the Earls of Derby and remained prominent in English history into modern times.

In 1405 he was granted the tenure of the Isle of Man by Henry IV , which had been confiscated from the rebellious Henry Percy, 1st Earl of Northumberland .
He held the following offices:-
Lord Deputy of Ireland between 1386 and 1388.1
Justiciary Ireland between 1389 and 1391.
Justice of Chester in 1394
Controller of the Royal Household in 1399
Lieutenant of Ireland between 1399 and 1401
Steward of the Household to the Prince of Wales circa 1403, later King Henry V
Surveyor of the Forests of Macclesfield , Mare and Mondrem, Cheshire in 1403
Governor of the City and County of Cheshire in 1403
He was invested as a Knight, Order of the Garter (K.G.) circa 1405
Steward of Macclesfield in 1406
He was granted the Isle, Castle, peel and Lordship of Mann, by King Henry IV of England
Sovereign Lord of the Isle of Man in 1406
Constable of Windsor Castle in 1409
Lieutenant of Ireland between 1413 and 1419

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From The Baronetage of England, p. 206:
"William, his son, lord of Stanley, &c. living 26 Edw. III, married Alicia, daughter of Hugh Massey, de Timperly, sister to Sir Hamond Massey, Knt. and had issue by her William de Stanley, lord of Stanley, &c. living 10 Rich. II. Henry, Matildes, and John... John, the younger brother of William aforesaid, married Isabella, daughter and heir of Thomas de Leatham, Knt. (lord of Leatham in Lancashire); from whence are descended the earls of Derby, who have so worthily exerted themselves for their King and country, as is evident in the history of England."
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From http://stanleyroots.co.uk/thenorthwest.htm

"William the Elder's younger brother Sir John de Stanleigh (1340-1414) may also have had other 'younger' sons such as Robert Stanley of Cheshire (see Peter E. Stanley's 'House of Stanley' p.501 & 505), who in 1398 was granted land in Surrey (Patent Rolls). In 1413, the king's esquire Robert de Stanley was granted 20 from customs in the port of London, by Henry V; he was on the Agincourt campaign in 1415, and was again mentioned in letters patent in 1422 (Patent Rolls)..."


"The Stanleys of Lathom and Knowsley in Lancashire
The landowning Stanleys of Stanley in Staffordshire and Stourton in Cheshire established a branch in Lancashire after 1400. In 1385 Sir John de Stanleigh (1340-1414) married the heiress Isabel de Lathom, bringing into his possession in 1406 the estates of Lathom and Knowsley in Lancashire. Having served in Ireland, Sir John was created Ruler of the Isle of Man in 1405. It was his great-grandson, Sir Thomas Stanley, who was created 1st Earl of Derby in 1485, for his famous assistance to Henry Tudor at the Battle of Bosworth."
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From Manx Note Book
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/people/lords/john1.htm

"Sir John was second son of William Stanley of Storeton, Master Forester of Wirral - he was a soldier with an exceptional military record and confident of Richard II who had appointed him deputy to Robert de Vere Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. He married Isabel of Lathom, in 1385, when he was 40 and, due to unexpected deaths of various closer heirs, received from her large estates in southwest Lancashire and Cheshire.

"The Stanleys were adroit at joining the winning side and thus in 1399 he had joined Henry of Lancaster against Richard and, after Henry was crowned King, received several more estates in Cheshire.

"In 1405 he was granted the Lordship of Man in return for his help in suppressing the rebellion in Wales led by the Percies. Legally this was not yet Henry's to give as the current Lord, Henry de Percy, had not yet been attainted - he actually had avoided being at Shrewsbury due to illness and managed to apologise his way out, saving his head but still losing the Island!. This legal error was to cause much trouble during the disputed inheritance of 1594 and the Island was re-assigned to the Stanleys in 1610.
"Initially the grant of the Lordship was for his lifetime only, but in 1406 on payment of 1,300 marks (1 mark = 13s 4d - or for those younger than 40 0.67) Henry granted it for posterity throwing in the captaincy of Castle Rushen , patronage of the bishropric of Sodor and Man as well as the various royalties etc. then worth some 400 per year for good measure!
"In 1408 he was sent, as Lord Lieutanant, back to Ireland where he died in 1414. His body was returned to Lathom and buried in Burscough Priory near Ormskirk."
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From http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/people/lords/stanleys.htm
"A brief biography, concentrating on their role in Manx affairs, is given under their separate headings; however Robertson in his Tour of 1794 makes the following, rather typical, comment concerning the Stanleys:

"'it may not be improper to observe, that their personal history, except in a few instances, is unconnected with the public transactions of the Island. Being Subjects of England, they generally resided in that country; and so long as their Lieutenants remitted the revenues of the kingdom,they supinely acquiesced in their administration. For more than three centuries this family enjoyed the regal government of Man; yet in so long a period few of them possessed the ambition or generosity to visit their subjects: and when they conferred this honour, either their interests in the Island were threatened, or their personal safety in England endangered.'

"There is a fair amount of truth in this - the Island would appear to have contributed around 20 to 25% of the Derby revenues (figures averaged from those quoted by Coward) and any political activity required them to remain either in London or more usually their Lancashire stronghold."
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From Manx Note Book
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/fulltext/hist1900/ch21.htm:

Sir John Stanley, K.G. (b. 1350? d. 1414), 1 the first of the Stanley family who ruled in Man, does not seem to have visited the island. Sir John, who in his youth had served in Aquitaine, held important posts in Ireland between 1386 and 1391, and on the Welsh and Scottish borders. We have already seen 2 how his services to Henry IV. in 1405 were rewarded. In 1409, he was made Constable of Windsor, and Henry V. sent him, in 1413, to govern Ireland, where he died in the following year. His eldest son, John (d. 1432?),3 by Isabel, daughter of Sir Thomas Latham, visited Man in his father's lifetime, when the " Barrons of Man " and the " worthiest Men and Commons " did " faith and fealtie " to him as " Heyre Apparent."4

Footnotes
1 The information about the Stanleys is taken, for the most part, from Seacome, the family historian, and the Dictionary of National Biography.
2 P. 197.
3 This is the date given by Seacome (edition of 1821, p. 41), but the Dict. of Nat. Biog. (quoting Ormerod, ii. 412; and Collins, Ed. Brydges, iii. 54) gives it as 1437.
4 Statutes, vol. i. p. 4
In 1408, some question seems to have arisen with regard to a claim made on behalf of Stephen, " heir of William Lestroppe his brother, formerly Lord of Man," against which the bishop, abbot, and clergy protested, but nothing is known of the result (Add. Chart. Manx Soc., vol. vii. pp. 247-50 ).



Research Notes: Wife - Jane Lassells

Source: Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919


Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man and Isabella de Lathom




Husband Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man 40 41 42 43 44 45

            AKA: John I Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland & King of Mann
           Born: Abt 1340 - Stanley, Staffordshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 6 Jan 1414 - Ardee, Dublin, Ireland
         Buried: Jan 1414 - Burscough Priory near Ormskirk, Lancashire, England


         Father: William de Stanleigh Lord of Stanleigh and Storeton (1311-1360) 46 47 48
         Mother: Cecily Congleton (Abt 1315-Bef 1353)


       Marriage: in or bef 1385

   Other Spouse: Jane Lassells (      -      )

Events

Made: Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, 1385.

Made: Lord of Man by Henry IV, 1405.

Sent to Ireland: as Lord Lieutenant, 1408.




Wife Isabella de Lathom 49 50

            AKA: Isabel Latham, Isabel Lathom, Isabel de Lathom
           Born: Abt 1364
     Christened: 
           Died: 26 Oct 1414
         Buried: 


         Father: Sir Thomas de Lathom of Lathom, Lancashire (      -Bef 1382) 42 51 52
         Mother: Johanna Venables (Abt 1330-      ) 53




Children
1 M Sir John de Stanley King & Lord of the Isle of Man and the Isles, K.G. 50 54 55

            AKA: Sir John Stanleigh, Sir John Stanley II, King and Lord of Man and the Isles, John Stanley
           Born: 1390 - <Lathom, Lancashire>, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 27 Nov 1437 - Anglesey, Wales
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Elizabeth Harington (Abt 1390-1437) 56 57 58


2 M Henry Stanley

           Born: Abt 1391
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



3 M Thomas Stanley

           Born: Abt 1392
     Christened: 
           Died: Abt 1463
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Maude Arderne (Abt 1398-After 1425)
         Spouse: Elizabeth Waller (      -      )


4 M Ralph Stanley

           Born: Abt 1393
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



5 F Margaret Stanley

           Born: Abt 1395
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 




Birth Notes: Husband - Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has b. abt 1356.

http://stanleyroots.co.uk/thenorthwest.htm has b. 1340, d. 1414


Death Notes: Husband - Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has d. 6 Jan 1414 or 1415

http://stanleyroots.co.uk/thenorthwest.htm has b. 1340, d. 1414.


Burial Notes: Husband - Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man

Died in Ireland. His body was returned to Lathom (England) and buried in Burscough Priory near Ormskirk.


Research Notes: Husband - Sir John de Stanley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Lord of Man

From Wikipedia - John II Stanley of the Isle of Man :

Sir John Stanley, K.G. (c. 1350 - 1414 ), was Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and titular King of Mann , the first of that name. The Stanley family later became the Earls of Derby and remained prominent in English history into modern times.

In 1405 he was granted the tenure of the Isle of Man by Henry IV , which had been confiscated from the rebellious Henry Percy, 1st Earl of Northumberland .
He held the following offices:-
Lord Deputy of Ireland between 1386 and 1388.1
Justiciary Ireland between 1389 and 1391.
Justice of Chester in 1394
Controller of the Royal Household in 1399
Lieutenant of Ireland between 1399 and 1401
Steward of the Household to the Prince of Wales circa 1403, later King Henry V
Surveyor of the Forests of Macclesfield , Mare and Mondrem, Cheshire in 1403
Governor of the City and County of Cheshire in 1403
He was invested as a Knight, Order of the Garter (K.G.) circa 1405
Steward of Macclesfield in 1406
He was granted the Isle, Castle, peel and Lordship of Mann, by King Henry IV of England
Sovereign Lord of the Isle of Man in 1406
Constable of Windsor Castle in 1409
Lieutenant of Ireland between 1413 and 1419

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From The Baronetage of England, p. 206:
"William, his son, lord of Stanley, &c. living 26 Edw. III, married Alicia, daughter of Hugh Massey, de Timperly, sister to Sir Hamond Massey, Knt. and had issue by her William de Stanley, lord of Stanley, &c. living 10 Rich. II. Henry, Matildes, and John... John, the younger brother of William aforesaid, married Isabella, daughter and heir of Thomas de Leatham, Knt. (lord of Leatham in Lancashire); from whence are descended the earls of Derby, who have so worthily exerted themselves for their King and country, as is evident in the history of England."
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From http://stanleyroots.co.uk/thenorthwest.htm

"William the Elder's younger brother Sir John de Stanleigh (1340-1414) may also have had other 'younger' sons such as Robert Stanley of Cheshire (see Peter E. Stanley's 'House of Stanley' p.501 & 505), who in 1398 was granted land in Surrey (Patent Rolls). In 1413, the king's esquire Robert de Stanley was granted 20 from customs in the port of London, by Henry V; he was on the Agincourt campaign in 1415, and was again mentioned in letters patent in 1422 (Patent Rolls)..."


"The Stanleys of Lathom and Knowsley in Lancashire
The landowning Stanleys of Stanley in Staffordshire and Stourton in Cheshire established a branch in Lancashire after 1400. In 1385 Sir John de Stanleigh (1340-1414) married the heiress Isabel de Lathom, bringing into his possession in 1406 the estates of Lathom and Knowsley in Lancashire. Having served in Ireland, Sir John was created Ruler of the Isle of Man in 1405. It was his great-grandson, Sir Thomas Stanley, who was created 1st Earl of Derby in 1485, for his famous assistance to Henry Tudor at the Battle of Bosworth."
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From Manx Note Book
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/people/lords/john1.htm

"Sir John was second son of William Stanley of Storeton, Master Forester of Wirral - he was a soldier with an exceptional military record and confident of Richard II who had appointed him deputy to Robert de Vere Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. He married Isabel of Lathom, in 1385, when he was 40 and, due to unexpected deaths of various closer heirs, received from her large estates in southwest Lancashire and Cheshire.

"The Stanleys were adroit at joining the winning side and thus in 1399 he had joined Henry of Lancaster against Richard and, after Henry was crowned King, received several more estates in Cheshire.

"In 1405 he was granted the Lordship of Man in return for his help in suppressing the rebellion in Wales led by the Percies. Legally this was not yet Henry's to give as the current Lord, Henry de Percy, had not yet been attainted - he actually had avoided being at Shrewsbury due to illness and managed to apologise his way out, saving his head but still losing the Island!. This legal error was to cause much trouble during the disputed inheritance of 1594 and the Island was re-assigned to the Stanleys in 1610.
"Initially the grant of the Lordship was for his lifetime only, but in 1406 on payment of 1,300 marks (1 mark = 13s 4d - or for those younger than 40 0.67) Henry granted it for posterity throwing in the captaincy of Castle Rushen , patronage of the bishropric of Sodor and Man as well as the various royalties etc. then worth some 400 per year for good measure!
"In 1408 he was sent, as Lord Lieutanant, back to Ireland where he died in 1414. His body was returned to Lathom and buried in Burscough Priory near Ormskirk."
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From http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/people/lords/stanleys.htm
"A brief biography, concentrating on their role in Manx affairs, is given under their separate headings; however Robertson in his Tour of 1794 makes the following, rather typical, comment concerning the Stanleys:

"'it may not be improper to observe, that their personal history, except in a few instances, is unconnected with the public transactions of the Island. Being Subjects of England, they generally resided in that country; and so long as their Lieutenants remitted the revenues of the kingdom,they supinely acquiesced in their administration. For more than three centuries this family enjoyed the regal government of Man; yet in so long a period few of them possessed the ambition or generosity to visit their subjects: and when they conferred this honour, either their interests in the Island were threatened, or their personal safety in England endangered.'

"There is a fair amount of truth in this - the Island would appear to have contributed around 20 to 25% of the Derby revenues (figures averaged from those quoted by Coward) and any political activity required them to remain either in London or more usually their Lancashire stronghold."
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From Manx Note Book
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/fulltext/hist1900/ch21.htm:

Sir John Stanley, K.G. (b. 1350? d. 1414), 1 the first of the Stanley family who ruled in Man, does not seem to have visited the island. Sir John, who in his youth had served in Aquitaine, held important posts in Ireland between 1386 and 1391, and on the Welsh and Scottish borders. We have already seen 2 how his services to Henry IV. in 1405 were rewarded. In 1409, he was made Constable of Windsor, and Henry V. sent him, in 1413, to govern Ireland, where he died in the following year. His eldest son, John (d. 1432?),3 by Isabel, daughter of Sir Thomas Latham, visited Man in his father's lifetime, when the " Barrons of Man " and the " worthiest Men and Commons " did " faith and fealtie " to him as " Heyre Apparent."4

Footnotes
1 The information about the Stanleys is taken, for the most part, from Seacome, the family historian, and the Dictionary of National Biography.
2 P. 197.
3 This is the date given by Seacome (edition of 1821, p. 41), but the Dict. of Nat. Biog. (quoting Ormerod, ii. 412; and Collins, Ed. Brydges, iii. 54) gives it as 1437.
4 Statutes, vol. i. p. 4
In 1408, some question seems to have arisen with regard to a claim made on behalf of Stephen, " heir of William Lestroppe his brother, formerly Lord of Man," against which the bishop, abbot, and clergy protested, but nothing is known of the result (Add. Chart. Manx Soc., vol. vii. pp. 247-50 ).



Birth Notes: Wife - Isabella de Lathom

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has b. abt 1364


Death Notes: Wife - Isabella de Lathom

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has d. 26 Oct 1414


Research Notes: Wife - Isabella de Lathom

www.whitneygen.org/archives/biography/princewm.html

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 2008), line 37-34. Daughter of Sir Thomas de Lathom, probably by his first wife. His second wife was Joan.
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Note from http://cybergata.com/roots/480.htm :
Topographica et Genealogica VII (1841), p. 20, chart, shows Thomas married to Johanna, daughter of Hugh Venables, Baron of Kinderton, and sister of Hugh Venables, Sheriff of Cheshire. Isabel de Lathom married Sir John Stanley, Knight of the Garter.


Birth Notes: Child - Sir John de Stanley King & Lord of the Isle of Man and the Isles, K.G.

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has b. abt 1385.

http://stanleyroots.co.uk/thenorthwest.htm has b. 1390, d. 1437

Manx Note Book http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/people/lords/stanleys.htm has b. abt 1386, d. 1437.


Death Notes: Child - Sir John de Stanley King & Lord of the Isle of Man and the Isles, K.G.

Source: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3143362&id=I653270087

Glenda Turcks http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=nanatea&id=I33919 has d. 27 Nov 1437.


Richard de Lathom




Husband Richard de Lathom 59

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           Died: 
         Buried: 
       Marriage: 



Wife

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Children
1 M Sir Robert de Lathom Sheriff of Lancashire 60

           Born: Abt 1215 - Lancashire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: After 1287 - Lancashire, England
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Amicia de Alfreton (Abt 1208-      ) 61 62
           Marr: Bef 16 Jul 1252




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48 Seacome, John, <i>The History of the House of Stanley From the Conquest to the Death of the Right Honourable Edward, Late Earl of Derby, in 1776.</i> (Manchester: J. Gleave, 1821.), p. 14.

49 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, <i>Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700</i> (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 57-34, 37-34.

50 Website - Genealogy, www.whitneygen.org/archives/biography/princewm.html.

51 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, <i>Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700</i> (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 57-32.

52 Website:, http://cybergata.com/roots/494.htm. Cit. Date: 27 Jun 2013.

53 Website:, http://cybergata.com/roots/495.htm.

54 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, <i>Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700</i> (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 57-35.

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56 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, <i>Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700</i> (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 40-33, 57-35 (Sir John Stanley).

57 Seacome, John, <i>The History of the House of Stanley From the Conquest to the Death of the Right Honourable Edward, Late Earl of Derby, in 1776.</i> (Manchester: J. Gleave, 1821.), p. 229.

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