The Johnson-Wallace & Fish-Kirk Families




David ap Philip Hanmer and Angharad verch Llywelyn Ddu




Husband David ap Philip Hanmer

           Born: Abt 1328
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           Died: After 1383
         Buried: 


         Father: Philip Hanmer (      -      )
         Mother: Annes verch Dafydd (      -      )


       Marriage: 



Wife Angharad verch Llywelyn Ddu

           Born: Abt 1332
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         Father: Llywelyn Ddu "the Black" ap Gruffydd (Abt 1300-      )
         Mother: Margred verch Madog Fychan (      -      )




Children
1 M Gruffydd Hanmer Esq., of Hanmer, Flintshire

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         Spouse: Angharad verch Tudur (      -      )



Research Notes: Husband - David ap Philip Hanmer

RootsWeb - Celtic Royal Genealogy


Research Notes: Wife - Angharad verch Llywelyn Ddu

RootsWeb - Celtic Royal Genealogy


Research Notes: Child - Gruffydd Hanmer Esq., of Hanmer, Flintshire

RootsWeb - Celtic Royal Genealogy


Source: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales by Thomas Nicholas, Vol. I, (London, 1872), p. 455


Maelgwn Fychan ap Maelgwn ap Rhys Lord of Cardigan Is Ayron and Angharad ferch Llywelyn Fawr




Husband Maelgwn Fychan ap Maelgwn ap Rhys Lord of Cardigan Is Ayron

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           Died: 1257
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         Father: Maelgwn ap Rhys (      -      )
         Mother: 


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Wife Angharad ferch Llywelyn Fawr 1 2

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         Father: Llywelyn the Great Prince of Gwynedd (Abt 1173-1240)
         Mother: Tangwystl verch Llywarch (Abt 1168-      ) 2 3 4




Children
1 F Elen ferch Maelgwn Fychan

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         Spouse: Maredudd ap Owain ap Gruffudd Lord of Cardigan Uch Ayron (      -1265)



Research Notes: Husband - Maelgwn Fychan ap Maelgwn ap Rhys Lord of Cardigan Is Ayron

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, Baltimore, 2008, Line 254-29 (Angharad)


Research Notes: Wife - Angharad ferch Llywelyn Fawr

From Ancestral Roots, Line 254-29 (Angharad) has her mother as Joan, natural daughter of King John, who married Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales.

Her mother may have been Tangwystl Goch.

From Wikipedia - Llywelyn the Great:

"During Llywelyn's boyhood Gwynedd was ruled by two of his uncles, who had agreed to split the kingdom between them following the death of Llywelyn's grandfather, Owain Gwynedd , in 1170. Llywelyn had a strong claim to be the legitimate ruler and began a campaign to win power at an early age. He was sole ruler of Gwynedd by 1200, and made a treaty with King John of England the same year. Llywelyn's relations with John remained good for the next ten years. He married John's illegitimate daughter Joan , also known as Joanna, in 1205, and when John arrested Gwenwynwyn ab Owain of Powys in 1208 Llywelyn took the opportunity to annex southern Powys. In 1210 relations deteriorated and John invaded Gwynedd in 1211. Llywelyn was forced to seek terms and to give up all his lands east of the River Conwy, but was able to recover these lands the following year in alliance with the other Welsh princes. He allied himself with the barons who forced John to sign Magna Carta in 1215. By 1216 he was the dominant power in Wales, holding a council at Aberdyfi that year to apportion lands to the other princes...

Children
The identity of the mother of some of Llywelyn's children is uncertain. He was survived by nine children, two legitimate, one probably legitimate and six illegitimate. Elen ferch Llywelyn (c.1207-1253), his only certainly legitimate daughter, first married John de Scotia, Earl of Chester. This marriage was childless, and after John's death Elen married Sir Robert de Quincy , the brother of Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester . Llywelyn's only legitimate son, Dafydd ap Llywelyn (c.1208-1246), married Isabella de Braose, daughter of William de Braose, 10th Baron Abergavenny , Lord of Abergavenny. William was the son of Reginald de Braose , who married another of Llywelyn's daughters. Dafydd and Isabella may have had one child together, Helen of Wales (1246-1295), but the marriage failed to produce a male heir.
Another daughter, Gwladus Ddu (c.1206-1251), was probably legitimate. Adam of Usk states that she was a legitimate daughter by Joan, although some sources claim that her mother was Llywelyn's mistress, Tangwystl Goch.[64] She first married Reginald de Braose of Brecon and Abergavenny, but had no children by him. After Reginald's death she married Ralph de Mortimer of Wigmore and had several sons.

The mother of most of Llywelyn's illegitimate children is known or assumed to have been Llywelyn's mistress, Tangwystl Goch (c.1168-1198). Gruffydd ap Llywelyn (c.1196-1244) was Llywelyn's eldest son and is known to be the son of Tangwystl. He married Senena, daughter of Caradoc ap Thomas of Anglesey . Their four sons included Llywelyn ap Gruffydd , who for a period occupied a position in Wales comparable to that of his grandfather, and Dafydd ap Gruffydd who ruled Gwynedd briefly after his brother's death. Llywelyn had another son, Tegwared ap Llywelyn, by a woman known only as Crysten.
Marared ferch Llywelyn (c.1198-after 1263) married John de Braose of Gower, a nephew of Reginald de Braose, and after his death married Walter Clifford of Bronllys and Clifford. Other illegitimate daughters were Gwenllian ferch Llywelyn, who married William de Lacey, and Angharad ferch Llywelyn, who married Maelgwn Fychan. Susanna ferch Llywelyn was sent to England as a hostage in 1228, but no further details are known."


Research Notes: Child - Elen ferch Maelgwn Fychan

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, Baltimore, 2008, Line 254-30


Robert II de Quincy and Elen ferch Llywelyn Fawr




Husband Robert II de Quincy 5 6

            AKA: Robert de Quincey, Robert the Younger de Quincey
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           Died: 1257 - <Palestine>
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         Father: Saher IV de Quincy 1st Earl of Winchester (1155-1219) 7 8
         Mother: Margaret de Beaumont (Abt 1156-Abt 1235) 4 9 10


       Marriage: After 1237

   Other Spouse: Hawise of Chester, Countess of Lincoln (1180-Between 1241/1243) 11 12

Events

• Crusader:




Wife Elen ferch Llywelyn Fawr 8 13

            AKA: Helene, Elen verch Llywelyn, Helen verch Llywelyn
           Born: Abt 1207
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           Died: 1253
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         Father: Llywelyn the Great Prince of Gwynedd (Abt 1173-1240)
         Mother: Joan Princess of Gwynedd (Bef 1200-Between 1236/1237) 14 15 16




Children

Research Notes: Husband - Robert II de Quincy

Second son named Robert.

From Wikipedia - Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester :

Robert de Quincy (second son of that name; d. 1257) who married Helen , daughter of the Welsh prince Llywelyn the Great ;

"Robert (d. 1217). Some sources say he married Hawise, sister and co-heiress of Ranulf de Blundeville, earl of Chester . However, it is more likely Hawise married Saer's brother Robert II;"
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Ancestral Roots, Line 54-28 (Robert II de Quincy), has "d.v.p. bef. 1232,... m. Hawise of Chester (125-29), b. 1180, d. 1241/3, Countess of Lincoln." The "d.v.p. bef. 1232 makes him appear to be the first Robert.



Research Notes: Wife - Elen ferch Llywelyn Fawr

If Robert II de Quincy was the husband of Hawise of Chester, Elen was his second wife. Magna Charta Barons lists only Elen and has her as the mother of his 3 daughters. Magna Charta Barons is not a reliable source.

From Wikipedia - Elen ferch Llywelyn :

Elen ferch Llywelyn (c. 1206 - 1253) was the daughter of Llywelyn the Great of Gwynedd in north Wales .

The records of Llywelyn's family are confusing, and it is not certain which of his children were illegitimate, but Elen appears to have been his legitimate daughter by Joan , illegitimate daughter of King John of England .

Elen married John de Scotia, Earl of Chester , in about 1222. He died aged thirty in 1237, and she re-married, her second husband being Sir Robert de Quincy . Their daughter, Hawise , was married to Baldwin Wake , Lord Wake of Lidel. Hawise and Baldwin's granddaughter, Margaret Wake , was the mother of Joan of Kent , later Princess of Wales. Thus the blood of Llywelyn Fawr passed into the English royal family through King Richard II .

There is also a record of a "Helen" daughter of "Llywelyn of Wales" who married Mormaer Maol Choluim II, Earl of Fife and later married Domhnall I, Earl of Mar . The dates appear to rule out this being Elen, since Maol Chaluim II did not die until 1266 while Elen's death is recorded in 1253. Some genealogists propose the existence of another Elen, an illegitimate daughter born towards the end of Llywelyn's life, but there is no clear evidence for this. Another possibility is that this Helen might have been an illegitimate daughter of Llywelyn the Last born when he was a young man, but there is also no evidence of the theory being true. More likely this lady was Susannah ferch Llywelyn ab Iorwerth , who was sent to England in 1228 and married the earl of Fife in the summer of 1237.[1]



Garnier de Lochar Seigneur Villandry et la Haie




Husband Garnier de Lochar Seigneur Villandry et la Haie 17

           Born: Abt 844 - Loches, France
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           Died: Bef 929 - Loches, France
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Wife

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Children
1 F Roscille de Lochar 18

           Born: Abt 874 - France
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         Spouse: Foulques "le Roux" Comté d'Anjou (Abt 0870-Abt 0942) 19




Skuli Lofdasson




Husband Skuli Lofdasson 4

           Born: Abt 548 - <Norway>
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         Father: Lofdi Halfdansson (Abt 0498-      ) 4
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Wife

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Children
1 M Egdir Skulasson 4

           Born: Abt 598 - <Norway>
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David Long and Erica Lynn Smith




Husband David Long (details suppressed for this person)

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Wife Erica Lynn Smith (details suppressed for this person)

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         Father: Eric Watson Smith
         Mother: Theresa Lynn Fish




Children
1 F Dixie Lynn Long (details suppressed for this person)

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2 F Sandra Jean Long (details suppressed for this person)

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Birth Notes: Child - Dixie Lynn Long

9:18am, 5 pounds 4 ounces.


Charles Edwin Somers and Hannah Jean Long




Husband Charles Edwin Somers 20

           Born: Abt 1863 - Elora (Centre Wellington), Nichol Twp, Wellington, Canada West (Ontario), Canada
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         Father: Joseph Gibbs Somers 21 22
         Mother: Prudence McLean Hanley 22


       Marriage: 21 Aug 1918 - Port Credit, Peel, Ontario, Canada 20

Events

• Occupation: real estate, 1918, Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada.

• Residence: 1918, Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada.




Wife Hannah Jean Long 20

           Born: Abt 1878 - Port Credit, Peel, Ontario, Canada
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         Father: John Alexander Long 20
         Mother: Caroline Hunter 20




Children


Stephen Longespée and Emeline de Ridelisford




Husband Stephen Longespée 23

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Wife Emeline de Ridelisford 23

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Children
1 F Emmeline Longespée

           Born: Abt 1250
     Christened: 
           Died: 1291
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Maurice FitzMaurice FitzGerald 3rd Lord of Offaly (      -1286) 24 25
           Marr: Abt 1266



Research Notes: Child - Emmeline Longespée

Wikipedia (Juliane FitzGerald) states that she was Maurice FitzMaurice's second wife and had no children by him. Ancestral Roots line 178-6 states that she was the mother of Juliana FitzGerald.


Henry Loveday




Husband Henry Loveday 26

           Born: 1326 - Shrivenham, Berkshire, England
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           Died: 1360 - Shrivenham, Berkshire, England
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         Father: John Loveday (1300-1326)
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Wife

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Children
1 F Lady Margaret Loveday of Berkshire 27

           Born: 1352 - Berkshire, England
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           Died: 1385 - Berkshire, England
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         Spouse: Sir John Fowler of Berkshire (1350-1412) 27




John Loveday




Husband John Loveday

           Born: 1300
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           Died: 1326 - England
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Wife

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Children
1 M Henry Loveday 26

           Born: 1326 - Shrivenham, Berkshire, England
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           Died: 1360 - Shrivenham, Berkshire, England
         Buried: 





Sources


1. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 254-29 (Angharad).

2. Wikipedia.org, Llywelyn the Great.

3. Powys-Land Club, Collections Historical & Archæological Relating to Montgomeryshire, and Its Borders. (Vol. 13. London: Thomas Richards, 1880.), p. 121.

4. http://www.familysearch.org.

5. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 54-28.

6. Browning, Charles Henry, The Magna Charta Barons and their American Descendants (Philadelphia, 1898.), p. 102.

7. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-27 (Margaret de Beaumont).

8. Wikipedia.org, Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester.

9. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-27.

10. Wikipedia.org, Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford; Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester.

11. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 125-29, 54-28 (Robert II de Quincy).

12. Wikipedia.org, Hugh de Kevelioc, 5th Earl of Chester.

13. Wikipedia.org, Elen ferch Llywelyn.

14. Davies, John, A History of Wales. (Rev. ed. New York: Penguin Group, 2007.), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_England.

15. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 29A-27.

16. Wikipedia.org, John of England; Llywelyn the Great.

17. Website:, http://cybergata.com/roots/2479.htm.

18. Website:, http://cybergata.com/roots/2478.htm.

19. Website:, http://cybergata.com/roots/2477.htm.

20. FamilySearch Historical Files (www.familysearch.org), "Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKM5-482Z : 13 April 2015), Charles Edwin Somers and Hannah Jean Long, 21 Aug 1918; citing registration , Port Credit, Peel, Ontario, Canada, Archi.

21. FamilySearch Historical Files (www.familysearch.org), "Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMKS-9C3 : 10 April 2015), Harry Burson Somers and Jennie Margaret Wallace, 13 Sep 1893; citing registration , Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada, Arch.

22. FamilySearch Historical Files (www.familysearch.org), "Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKM5-4828 : 13 April 2015), Joseph Gibbs Somers in entry for Charles Edwin Somers and Hannah Jean Long, 21 Aug 1918; citing registration , Port Cre.

23. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 178-6 (Maurice FitzMaurice FitzGerald).

24. Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 178-6, 54-31 (Thomas de Clare).

25. Wikipedia.org, Juliana FitzGerald.

26. Ancestry.com, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/29106850/family?cfpid=13888535299.

27. Ancestry.com, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/29106850/family?cfpid=12756572739.


Sources


1 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 254-29 (Angharad).

2 Wikipedia.org, Llywelyn the Great.

3 Powys-Land Club, Collections Historical & Archæological Relating to Montgomeryshire, and Its Borders. (Vol. 13. London: Thomas Richards, 1880.), p. 121.

4 http://www.familysearch.org.

5 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 54-28.

6 Browning, Charles Henry, The Magna Charta Barons and their American Descendants (Philadelphia, 1898.), p. 102.

7 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-27 (Margaret de Beaumont).

8 Wikipedia.org, Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester.

9 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-27.

10 Wikipedia.org, Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford; Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester.

11 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 125-29, 54-28 (Robert II de Quincy).

12 Wikipedia.org, Hugh de Kevelioc, 5th Earl of Chester.

13 Wikipedia.org, Elen ferch Llywelyn.

14 Davies, John, A History of Wales. (Rev. ed. New York: Penguin Group, 2007.), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_England.

15 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 29A-27.

16 Wikipedia.org, John of England; Llywelyn the Great.

17 Website:, http://cybergata.com/roots/2479.htm.

18 Website:, http://cybergata.com/roots/2478.htm.

19 Website:, http://cybergata.com/roots/2477.htm.

20 FamilySearch Historical Files (www.familysearch.org), "Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKM5-482Z : 13 April 2015), Charles Edwin Somers and Hannah Jean Long, 21 Aug 1918; citing registration , Port Credit, Peel, Ontario, Canada, Archi.

21 FamilySearch Historical Files (www.familysearch.org), "Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMKS-9C3 : 10 April 2015), Harry Burson Somers and Jennie Margaret Wallace, 13 Sep 1893; citing registration , Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada, Arch.

22 FamilySearch Historical Files (www.familysearch.org), "Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKM5-4828 : 13 April 2015), Joseph Gibbs Somers in entry for Charles Edwin Somers and Hannah Jean Long, 21 Aug 1918; citing registration , Port Cre.

23 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 178-6 (Maurice FitzMaurice FitzGerald).

24 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 178-6, 54-31 (Thomas de Clare).

25 Wikipedia.org, Juliana FitzGerald.

26 Ancestry.com, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/29106850/family?cfpid=13888535299.

27 Ancestry.com, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/29106850/family?cfpid=12756572739.


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