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The Johnson-Wallace & Fish-Kirk Families




Chief Black Fish and Watmeme




Husband Chief Black Fish 1

            AKA: Black Fish, Chief Blackfish, Chiungulla, Chiungulla "Black Fish," Mkah-day-way-may-qua, Chinugalla Blackfish, Cot-ta-wa-ma-go Blackfish, Pah Blackfish, Pah-e-a-ta-hea-se-ka Chinugalla
           Born: 1725
     Christened: 
           Died: 12 Oct 1779 - Chillicothe, Shawnee Territory (Ohio), (United States)
         Buried: 
       Marriage: by 1745

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Wife Watmeme 2

            AKA: Pekowi, Tecumplas Watmeme Pekowi Opessa,3 Watmeme Pekowi Opessa
           Born: Abt 1730
     Christened: 
           Died: Abt 1797 - Missouri City, (Fort Bend), Texas, (United States) 4
         Buried: 


         Father: Lawaquaqua Pride Opessa (1710-      ) 5
         Mother: 




Children
1 M Chinwa Blackfish

            AKA: Chinwa
           Born: 1745
     Christened: 
           Died: by 1760
         Buried: 



2 M Young Blackfish

            AKA: Young Black Fish, Young Black Fish
           Born: 1750
     Christened: 
           Died: After 1794
         Buried: 



3 M Captain Henry Rogers 6 7 8

            AKA: Captain Henry Rogers Blackfish
           Born: Abt 1755 9
     Christened: 
           Died: Abt 1803
         Buried: 
        Child-Par.Rel.: Father: Adopted, Mother: Adopted
         Spouse: Chelatha Blackfish (1761-      ) 10


4 F Parlie Blackfish 11 12

            AKA: Betty Blackfish, Parlie Chalakatha Blackfish, Parlie Chalakatha, Betty Rogers
           Born: 1755 - Ohio, (United States)
     Christened: 
           Died: After 1838 - <Missouri>, (United States) 13
         Buried: 
        Child-Par.Rel.: Father: Biological, Mother: Biological
         Spouse: Lewis Rogers (Abt 1764-1830) 14 15


5 M William Jackson Fish 16 17 18 19

            AKA: Fish, Captain Fish, Paschal Fish <Sr.>, William Jackson
           Born: Abt 1760 - <Chillicothe, Wapello, Iowa Territory>, (United States) 9
     Christened: 
           Died: Late Oct 1833 - <Kansas City, Jackson, Missouri, > United States
         Buried: 
        Child-Par.Rel.: Father: Adopted, Mother: Adopted
         Spouse: Elizabeth Bishop (      -      )
           Marr: Abt 1780
         Spouse: < > [Shawnee Woman] (      -      )
           Marr: Abt 1789
         Spouse: Martha "Polly" Rogers (Abt 1782-1847/1849) 20 21
           Marr: Abt 1797 22


6 M Lewis Rogers 14 15

            AKA: Lewis "Chinwa" Rogers Blackfish, Lewis Rodgers, Chinwa Rogers, Lewis Chinwa Rogers, Louis Rogers
           Born: Abt 1764 - Virginia, (United States) 9
     Christened: 
           Died: 1830 - Fayette, Howard, Missouri, United States 23
         Buried: 
        Child-Par.Rel.: Father: Adopted, Mother: Adopted
         Spouse: Parlie Blackfish (1755-After 1838) 11 12


7 M Captain Joseph Duquesne (details suppressed for this person)

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
        Child-Par.Rel.: Father: Adopted, Mother: Adopted
         Spouse: Pimegeezihigoqua Blackfish (1759-      ) 24
         Spouse: Lamatashe Blackfish (Abt 1765-After 1800)


8 F Pimegeezihigoqua Blackfish 24

            AKA: Pimegeezhigoqua Blackfish
           Born: 1759 9
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Captain Joseph Duquesne (Abt 1750-After 1835) 25


9 M Black Fish Jr.

            AKA: Black Fish II, Black Fish II
           Born: 1760
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 



10 F Chelatha Blackfish 10

           Born: 1761 9 26
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Captain Henry Rogers (Abt 1755-Abt 1803) 6 7 8


11 F Lamatashe Blackfish

            AKA: Lamateshe Chalakatha Black Fish, Lamateshe-Launateshe-Auqualanaux Blackfish, Lemateshe Blackfish
           Born: Abt 1765 9
     Christened: 
           Died: After 1800
         Buried: 
        Child-Par.Rel.: Father: Biological, Mother: Biological
         Spouse: Captain Joseph Duquesne (Abt 1750-After 1835) 25
           Marr: Abt 1779
         Spouse: Anthony Shane (Abt 1760-1834)
           Marr: Bef 1785


12 M Rev. Stephen Ruddell 27

            AKA: Big Fish, Big Fish Ruddell, Sinnanatha Ruddell, Stephen "Big Fish" Ruddell, Stephen "Sinnanatha" Ruddell
           Born: 1768
     Christened: 
           Died: 1840
         Buried: 
        Child-Par.Rel.: Father: Adopted, Mother: Adopted




Death Notes: Husband - Chief Black Fish

May have died in Kentucky in 1779 (see notes).


Research Notes: Husband - Chief Black Fish

Shawnee, war chief of the Chillicothe division of the Shawnee tribe.

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From Shawnee Heritage I: Shawnee Genealogy and Family History by Don Greene, 2014, pp. 28-29:

115. Black Fish aka Chiungulla- Paheataheaseka-Makadaywahmayquah - Chalakatha-Mekoche born about 1725 PA-killed 1779 KY - son of Chalakatha Chief/05 & Mother of Black Fish/10-Mekoche, raised Chalakatha by father's family after father's death 1739, Cornstalk War/55-77, French-Indian War/54-63, Braddock/55, raiding New-Shenandoah River valleys/55, raiding Ohio-New River valleys/58, Pontiac War/62-66, Bushy Run/63, raiding Greenbrier-Jackson River valleys/63, Grand Council 1763, raiding Ohio-Big Sandy-Little Kanawha-New River valleys/72, Point Pleasant/74, succeeded Cornstalk as Head Chief of Chalakatha & All Shawnee in 1777, led 300+ warriors at Point Pleasant/78 with Half King-Wyandot, Boonesboro/78, killed in KY raid/79, step-half-brother (through marriage of his Mother/10 to Pride Opessa/10 who was also married to Rising Sun/15) of Blue Jacket/35, was referred to as the uncle of Tecumseh/68), husband 1745 OH of Watmeme Opessa/30-Pekowi, father with Watmeme of Chinwa/46, Black Fish (2)-Young Black Fish (1)/48, Pimegeezhigoqua/52, Black Fish (3)-Young Black Fish (2)/54, Parlie/56, Lamateshe/58 & Cheletha/60-all Chalakatha-Mekoche-Pekowi, adopted father 1778 & father in law of Capt. Joseph Duquesne/50-adopted-1/2 Pekowi-Wyandot-Metis, Lewis Rogers/50-white & Henry Rogers/55-white, adopted father of William Jackson-Fish/70-white & Stephen Ruddle-Big Fish/68-white

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From Don Greene's later book Shawnee Heritage II: Select Lineages of Notable Shawnee, 2014, pp. 325-326:

Black Fish/1725

Black Fish aka Chiungulla-Cheeoongoola-Paheataheaseka-Makadaywahmayquah - Chalakatha-Mekoche born about 1725 PA killed 1779 KY - son of Fish Clan Chief/1705-Chalakatha & Sister of Muluntha/1710-Mekoche, raised by extended Chalakatha family after father's death 1739, moved to Lower Shawnee Town OH 1744 with Peter Chartier group, may have moved to Winchester KY 1745 with Chartier, returned to OH 1746, Cornstalk War/1755-77, a Chalakatha Chief in OH 1763, Grand Council 1763, succeeded Cornstalk as Head Chief of Chalakatha & All Shawnee in 1777, led 300+ warriors at Point Pleasant/1778 with Dewentatee-Half King/1730-Wyandot killed in KY raid/1779, step-half-brother of Blue Jacket/1735 (through marriage of his Mother/1710 to Pride Opessa/1710 who was also married to Sarah Rising Sun/1715 the mother of Blue Jacket), was referred to as the uncle of Tecumseh/1768), brother in law of Isadore Chesne/1735-(they married sisters), husband 1745 OH (before move to KY) of Watmeme Opessa/1730-Pekowi, father with Watmeme of sons Chinwa/1746, Young Black Fish (1)/1748, daughter Pimegeezhigoqua/1752, son Young Black Fish (2)/1754, daughters Parlie/1756, Lamateshe/1758 & Cheletha/1760-all Chalakatha-Mekoche-Pekowi, adopted father about 1770 of William Jackson-Fish/1768, adopted father & father in law 1778 of Capt. Joseph Duquesne/1756-1/2 Pekowi-Wyandot-Metis

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From Wikipedia - Chief Blackfish :

Blackfish (c. 1729 -1779 ), known in his native tongue as Cot-ta-wa-ma-go or Mkah-day-way-may-qua, was a Native American leader, war chief of the Chillicothe division of the Shawnee tribe. Little is known about him, since he only appears in written historical records during the last three years of his life, primarily because of his interactions with the famous American frontiersmen Daniel Boone and Simon Kenton .

When the Shawnees were defeated by Virginia in Dunmore's War in 1774, the resulting peace treaty made the Ohio River the boundary between western Virginia (what is now Kentucky and West Virginia ) and American Indian lands in the Ohio Country . Although this treaty was agreed to by Shawnee leaders such as Cornstalk , Blackfish and a number of other leaders refused to acknowledge the loss of their traditional hunting grounds in Kentucky.

Violence along the border escalated with the outbreak of the American Revolutionary War in 1775. As a result, the Chillicothe Shawnees moved their town on the Scioto River further west to the Little Miami River , near what is now Xenia, Ohio . Encouraged and supplied by British officials in Detroit , Blackfish and others launched raids against American settlers in Kentucky, hoping to drive them out of the region. In revenge for the murder of Cornstalk by American militiamen in November 1777, Blackfish set out on an unexpected winter raid in Kentucky, capturing American frontiersman Daniel Boone and a number of others on the Licking River on February 7 , 1778 . Boone, respected by the Shawnees for his extraordinary hunting skills, was taken back to Chillicothe and adopted into the tribe. The traditional tale is that Boone was adopted by Blackfish himself, although historian John Sugden suggests that Boone was probably adopted by another family.

Boone escaped in June 1778 when he learned that Blackfish was launching a siege of the Kentucky settlement of Boonesborough , which commenced in September of that year. The siege of Boonesborough was unsuccessful, and the Kentuckians, led by Colonel John Bowman , counterattacked Chillicothe the following spring. This raid was also unsuccessful, but Blackfish was shot in the leg, a wound which became infected and was eventually fatal.

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From https://www.geni.com/people/Lemateshe-Duquesne/6000000036267174154 :

Source: http://www.geocities.com/sam_cook_53/grpf2433.html?200821 -

Black Fish aka Chiungulla - born about 1725-died 1779 KY - French-Indian War, Braddock, raiding New-Shenandoah River valleys 1755, raiding Ohio-New River valleys 1758, Pontiac War, Bushy Run, raiding Greenbrier-Jackson River valleys 1763, Grand Council 1763, raiding Ohio-Big Sandy-Little Kanawha-New River valleys 1772, Point Pleasant 1774/78, Boonesboro, succeeded Cornstalk as Head Chief, killed in KY raid, half-brother of Red Pole, husband 1745 of Watmeme-Shawnee, father of Chinwa/45, Young Blackfish/50, Parlie/55, Pimegeezhigoqua/59, Black Fish II/60, Chelatha/61, Lamatashe/65, adopted father & father in law of Capt. Joseph Duquesne/50, Lewis Rogers/50 & Henry Rogers/55, adopted father of William Jackson aka Fish/70, Stephen Ruddell aka Big Fish/68, relative of Metheotashe, Blue Jacket Blackfish, Lemateshe aka Lamateshe-Launateshe-Auqualanaux - born about 1765-died after 1800 - daughter of Watmeme & Black Fish-both Shawnee, wife 1st about 1779 of Capt. Joseph Dusquene-adopted Chippewa Metis, 2nd before 1785 of his half-brother Anthony Shane-1/2 Pekowi Shawnee-Wyandot Metis, mother with Dusquene of David Deshane/80-1/2 Shawnee-Chippewa Metis, with Shane of David Dushane/85, John Shane/90 & 2 daughters-all 3/4th Pekowi Shawnee-Wyandot Metis Blackfish, Watmeme- born about 1730-died about 1797 MO - wife by 1745 of Black Fish/25, mother of Chinwa/45, Young Black Fish/50, Parlie/55, Pimegeezhigoqua/59, Black Fish Jr/60, Chelatha/61, Lematashe/65, adopted mother & mother in law of Capt. Joseph Dusquene/50-Chippewa Metis, Henry Rogers/55-white & Lewis Rogers/50-white, adopted mother of William Jackson/60-white & Stephen Ruddell/68-white, moved to MO about 1779 with adopted son Stephen Ruddell aka Big Fish Blackfish, Young - born about 1750-died after 1794 - raiding Ohio-Little Kanawha-New-Big Sandy River valleys 1772, Point Pleasant 1774/75/78, Boonesboro, Blue Licks, raiding KY-OH-VA 1777-81, Crawford, raiding Ohio River valley 1788, Little Turtle War, relative/same clan as Tecumseh, son of Watmeme & Black Fish, adopted father of George Ash- 28 29


Death Notes: Wife - Watmeme

May have died in Missouri.


Research Notes: Wife - Watmeme

Shawnee



Birth Notes: Child - Captain Henry Rogers

Researcher Don Greene sets his birth year about 1755.


Death Notes: Child - Captain Henry Rogers

http://familytrees.genopro.com/beltster/Marshall/default.htm?page=BigTurtleClanOfWyandotts-LeanderAkaLeadingTurtle-ind156834.htm


Birth Notes: Child - Parlie Blackfish

May have been born in 1756


Death Notes: Child - Parlie Blackfish

From an email dated 9 May 2020, summarizing information provided by Julia Ann Stinson in Transactions of the Kansas State Historical Society, 1907-1908, Vol. X, edited by George W. Martin (Topeka, 1908), pp. 401-402.

Julia said in her documents that her grandmother was with her mother when she was born. So we know that Parlie was alive in 1834. Also Julia relates a story about her grandmother coming to visit. I am assuming that Julia was at least 6 yrs old and that would place this about 1840.


Birth Notes: Child - William Jackson Fish

Researcher Don Greene sets his birth year at 1760, listing him as "Fish, Capt."
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By same researcher: http://www.shawnee-traditions.com/Names-7.html has b. abt 1760
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He may have been born in Farquier County, Virginia.


Death Notes: Child - William Jackson Fish

www.wyandot.org/emigrant.htm has late October, 1833.
http://www.shawnee-traditions.com/Names-7.html has d. 1833
Another source states that he died at the Shawnee Mission in 1834. Burial?


Birth Notes: Child - Lewis Rogers

Researcher Don Greene puts his birth year about 1750. Geni.com has 1746. But those could be in error. The narrative in his Find A Grave memorial (ID 192522520) has him born in 1764 in Virginia, "when both his parents were 16 years old." Research into his parents and siblings bears out the later date.

A family tree on Rootsweb (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kearns_family_2&id=I5812) gives Mary "Polly" Rogers as the daughter of Captain Lewis Rogers (b. 1750 in Virginia) and Parlie Blackfish (b. 1756 in Ohio).

www.wyandot.org/emigrant.htm says Polly Rogers was the daughter of Lewis Rogers. Fern Long wrote an article on Chief Fish (William Jackson) in 1978 in which she stated that he was raised by the Shawnees in the band of Lewis Rogers whose daughter he married. Lewis Rogers and William Jackson were both adopted by Chief Black Fish into the Shawnee tribe, but it makes sense if William Jackson was actually in the same band as Lewis Rogers.


Birth Notes: Child - Pimegeezihigoqua Blackfish

Researcher Don Greene puts her birth year at 1752.


Birth Notes: Child - Chelatha Blackfish

Researcher Don Greene puts her birth year at 1760, as does Geni. May have been born in 1761.


Birth Notes: Child - Lamatashe Blackfish

Researcher Don Greene puts her birth year at 1758.


Werner Count in Wormsgau




Husband Werner Count in Wormsgau 36

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           Died: Abt 920
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Wife

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Children
1 M Conrad "the Wise" Duke of Lorraine, Count in Wormsgau 37

           Born: 
     Christened: 
           Died: 10 Aug 955 - Lechfeld
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Luitgarde (Abt 0931-0953) 38
           Marr: Abt 947



Research Notes: Husband - Werner Count in Wormsgau

Count in Nahegau, Speyergau and Wormsgau


Death Notes: Child - Conrad "the Wise" Duke of Lorraine, Count in Wormsgau

Killed in battle


Touroude de Harcourt and Wevia de Crépon




Husband Touroude de Harcourt 39 40

            AKA: Touroude Seigneur de Pont Audemer, Touroude "the Woodcutter" of Ponte-Audemer, Thorold de Vielles
           Born: Abt 940 - <Pont-Audemer, (Eure)>, Normandy, France
     Christened: 
           Died: Abt 1040 - Préaux, (Eure), Normandy, France
         Buried:  - Préaux, (Eure), Normandy, France


         Father: Torf de Harcourt Baron de Tourville (Abt 0900-Abt 0960) 39 41 42
         Mother: Ertemberge de Bricquebec (Abt 0930-1001) 39 43


       Marriage: 



Wife Wevia de Crépon 39

            AKA: Duceline de Crepon
           Born: Abt 942 - <Pont-Audemer, (Eure)>, Normandy, France
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 


         Father: Herbastus de Crépon, Forester of Arques (Abt 0911-Abt 0984) 39 44
         Mother: 




Children
1 M Humphrey de Vielles, Lord of Beaumont-le-Roger 39 45 46

            AKA: Onfroi de Vielles, Umfrid of Vielles, Humphrey de Harcourt
           Born: Abt 980 - <Pont-Audemer, (Eure)>, Normandy, France
     Christened: 
           Died: 28 Sep 1044 - Normandy, France
         Buried:  - Préaux, (Eure), Normandy, France
         Spouse: Albreda de la Haye Auberie (Abt 0984-1045) 39 47
           Marr: Abt 1010 - France



Birth Notes: Husband - Touroude de Harcourt

May have been born about 950.


Research Notes: Husband - Touroude de Harcourt

From http://cybergata.com/roots/413.htm :
The house of Pont Audemer had a distinguished Northern ancestry. Touroude, Sire de Pont Audemer, was the son of Torf, Seigneur de Toraille, surnamed le Riche, who was the son of Bernard, the Dane, Prince of Denmark and Governor and Regent in Normandy. Bernard received baptism with Rollo at Rouen in 912. Torf's younger son was Turchetil, Sire de Turchetil, from whom descends the family of Harcourt.

Tourourde, Sir de Pon Audemer, was the son of one of the most zealous defenders of "William the Bastard," and was himself assassinated by the enemies of the young Duke.

~A Genealogical History of the Family of Montgomery, pg. 12
• Background Information. 726
Touroude was Lord of Pont-au-de-mer, Torville, torcy, Pontatou and Bourgtouroude and joint govern and guardian with his brother Turchetil, to William, Duke of Normandy during his minority. He married Wiva (also called Duceline), sister of Gunnora who was the "second wife"* of Richard, Duke of Normandy.

~~Fenwick Allied Ancestry, pg. 142, Pedigree 113
*Gunnora was the mistress of Richard I, Duke of Normandy.
• Web Reference: Robert de Torigny and the family of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy . Turulf de Audemer, son of a Norman founder, Torf, and uncle to the first Harcourts, was married to Duvelina, one of the sisters of Gunnor, the mistress of Richard I, Duke of Normandy.


Wilfred I "El Velloso" Count of Urgel and Widnille Countess of Flanders




Husband Wilfred I "El Velloso" Count of Urgel 48

           Born: Abt 840 - <Urgell, Lerida, Catalonia>, Spain
     Christened: 
           Died: After 21 Aug 897
         Buried: 


         Father: Sunifred Count of Urgel and Barcelona (Abt 0810-      ) 48
         Mother: Ermesende (Abt 0814-      ) 48


       Marriage: 877



Wife Widnille Countess of Flanders 48

            AKA: Widinile Countess of Flanders
           Born: Abt 865 - Flanders (Belgium)
     Christened: 
           Died: 
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         Father: Baldwin I Count of Flanders (Abt 0836-0879) 49 50 51 52
         Mother: Judith Princess of France (0844-After 0870) 53 54 55




Children
1 M Sunifred Count of Besalu and Urgel 48

           Born: Abt 878 - <Urgell, Lerida, Catalonia>, Spain
     Christened: 
           Died: 948
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Richilde de Rouergue (Abt 0882-After 0954) 48
           Marr: Between 920 and 925



Research Notes: Wife - Widnille Countess of Flanders

Source: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3174654&id=I593875288


Wig [Legendary]




Husband Wig [Legendary] 56 57

           Born: Abt 369
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         Father: Frowin Governor of Schleswig [Legendary] (      -      ) 58
         Mother: 


       Marriage: 



Wife

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Children
1 M Gewis [Legendary] 59 60

           Born: Abt 395
     Christened: 
           Died: 
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Research Notes: Husband - Wig [Legendary]

Regarded as legendary.

From Wikipedia - Ket and Wig :

Ket and Wig appear in the Gesta Danorum (book 4) as the sons of Frowin , the governor of Schleswig . Wig also appears in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as the son of Freawine (Frowin), and an early Northumbrian genealogical collection makes him father of Bernic, ancestor of the kings of Bernicia . This pedigree is thought to have been borrowed, replacing Bernic of the Bernicians with a supposed son Gewis , eponymous ancestor of the kings of Wessex .

Their father Frowin/Freawine was challenged to combat by the Swedish king Athisl , and killed. King Wermund who liked their father subsequently raised Ket and Wig as his own. They later avenged their father, but they fought against Athisl two against one, a national disgrace that was redeemed by their brother-in-law, King Wermund's son Offa , when he killed two Saxons at the same time, in "single combat". This event is referred to in Widsith as a duel against Myrgings .


William




Husband William

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Children
1 M John Wynne ap William

            AKA: John Gwyn, John Wynn
           Born: Abt 1512 - <Peniarth>, Caernarfon, Caernarfonshire, Wales
     Christened: 
           Died: 
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Jonet ferch Gruffudd (      -      ) 61



Research Notes: Husband - William

Source: The History of the Gwydir Family by Sir John Wynne (Oswestry, 1878), p. 78


William of Blois, Count of Boulogne and Isabelle de Warenne Countess of Surrey




Husband William of Blois, Count of Boulogne

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           Died: 1159
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Wife Isabelle de Warenne Countess of Surrey 62

            AKA: Isabel de Warenne Countess of Surrey
           Born: 
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           Died: 13 Jul 1199
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         Father: William de Warenne 3rd Earl of Surrey and Warenne (1118-1148) 63
         Mother: Ela Talvas of Alençon and Ponthieu (Abt 1124-1174) 64 65 66



   Other Spouse: Hamelin Plantagenet 5th Earl of Surrey (Abt 1129-1202) 67 68 69 - Apr 1164


Children

Research Notes: Husband - William of Blois, Count of Boulogne

Source: Wikipedia - Elizabeth of Vermandois

Also Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, Baltimore, 2008, Line 83-26 (Isabel de Warenne)


Research Notes: Wife - Isabelle de Warenne Countess of Surrey

From Wikipedia - Elizabeth of Vermandois :

In [Elizabeth's] second marriage, to William de Warenne, Elizabeth had three sons and two daughters (for a total of fourteen children - nine during her first marriage, and five during her second):
William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey and Warenne (b. 1119 dspm 1147) whose daughter Isabelle de Warenne, Countess of Surrey married 1stly
William, Count of Boulogne (dsp), yr son of King Stephen, and married 2ndly
Hamelin Plantagenet , an illegitimate half-brother of King Henry II of England by whom she had issue, later earls of Surrey and Warenne.


William I Count of Poitou




Husband William I Count of Poitou 70

            AKA: Guillaume III Count of Poitou, William III of Aquitaine
           Born: 900 - <Poitiers, Poitou, (Vienne), France>
     Christened: 
           Died: 3 Apr 963 - <Saint-Cyprien de Poitiers, Poitour, (Vienne), France>
         Buried: 


         Father: Ebles Mancer Count of Poitou (0868-0932)
         Mother: Aremburge (      -      ) 71


       Marriage: 

   Other Spouse: Adele de Normandie (      -After 0969) 72 - 935



Wife

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Children
1 M William II Count of Poitou 73

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Research Notes: Husband - William I Count of Poitou

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 2008).line 144A-19. Also line 45-22 (Henry III) and 110-23 (Hildegarde).

Source: familysearch.org (Kevin Bradford) has b. 910 in Poitier, d. bet 963 & 966 in Saint-Cyrien de Poitiers


William II Count of Poitou




Husband William II Count of Poitou 73

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         Father: William I Count of Poitou (0900-0963) 70
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Children
1 M William III Count of Poitou, Duke of Aquitaine 73

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William III Count of Poitou, Duke of Aquitaine




Husband William III Count of Poitou, Duke of Aquitaine 73

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         Father: William II Count of Poitou (      -      ) 73
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Children
1 F Agnes of Poitou 74

            AKA: Empress Agnes
           Born: Abt 1025
     Christened: 
           Died: 14 Dec 1077
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Henry III "the Black" Holy Roman Emperor (1017-1056) 74 75
           Marr: 21 Nov 1043 - Ingelheim, Besançon




Sources


1. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "FamilySearch Family Tree," database, FamilySearch (http://www.familysearch.org : accessed 24 Apr 2020), person ID LRYB-4YR. Cit. Date: 24 Apr 2020.

2. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "FamilySearch Family Tree," database, FamilySearch (http://www.familysearch.org : accessed 24 Apr 2020), person ID LVHP-NLH. Cit. Date: 24 Apr 2020.

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