The Johnson-Wallace & Fish-Kirk Families




Welf I of Metz and Hedwig Duchess of Bavaria




Husband Welf I of Metz 1

            AKA: Hwelf of Altdorf, Hwelf I of Metz, Welf of Altdorf
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           Died: Abt 825
         Buried: 


         Father: Rothard of Metz (      -      ) 1
         Mother: 


       Marriage: 

Events

• Living: 819.




Wife Hedwig Duchess of Bavaria 1

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         Father: Isanbart (      -      ) 1
         Mother: 




Children
1 F Judith of Bavaria 2 3 4

            AKA: Iudit of Bavaria
           Born: Abt 798 - Bavaria, Germany
     Christened: 
           Died: 19 Apr 843 - Tours, Touraine (Indre-et-Loire), France
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Louis I Holy Roman Emperor and King of the Franks (0778-0840) 5 6 7 8
           Marr: Feb 819


2 M Conrad I Count of Paris, Count of Auxerre 9

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           Died: 876
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         Spouse: Adelaide of Tours and Alsace (Abt 0819-After 0866) 10 11 12



Research Notes: Husband - Welf I of Metz

From Wikipedia - Welf (father of Judith) :

Welf or Hwelf also known as Welf I, was the son of the 9th century Frankish count Rothard of Metz . He is the oldest known member of the Elder House of Welf . Welf is mentioned only once: on the occasion of the wedding of his daughter Judith with Emperor Louis the Pious in 819.

Marriage and issue
Welf married Hedwig, Duchess of Bavaria , daughter of the Saxon count Isanbart ; Hedwig was abbess of Chelles . They had the following:
Judith , Roman Empress and Frankish Queen, died 843;
Rudolph , died 866;
Conrad , Count of Paris, ancestor of the Welf kings of Burgundy ;
Hemma , Frankish Queen, died 876.


Research Notes: Wife - Hedwig Duchess of Bavaria

Abbess of Chelles.


Birth Notes: Child - Judith of Bavaria

Ancestral Roots has b. abt 805. Source: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3174654&id=I593871879 has b. abt 798.


Research Notes: Child - Judith of Bavaria

Second wife of Louis I "the Fair."

From Wikipedia - Judith of Bavaria (795-843) :

Queen Judith or Iudit (805 - April 19 or 23, 843), also known as Judith of Bavaria, was the daughter of Count Welf and a Saxon noblewoman named Hedwig, Duchess of Bavaria (780 - 826). She became Queen consort of the Franks.

Marriage and issue
She became the second wife of Louis the Pious , Holy Roman Emperor and King of the Franks ; they married in Aachen in 819 and had the following children:
Gisela (820 - July 5 , 874 ), married Eberhard of Friuli
Charles the Bald

Impact on the Frankish kingdom

Judith ensured that her son Charles received a share of the kingdom, just like his three half-brothers from Louis' first marriage. This contributed to the ensuing civil war among Louis and his sons. Rebels temporarily imprisoned Judith in the convent of Poitiers on allegations of adultery during 830. From 833 to 834, she was exiled in Tortona .

Judith was the first member of the Elder House of Welf to have a leading role in the Frankish kingdom. Whether by coincidence or through Judith's influence, in the years following her marriage to Louis her mother and both of her brothers gained important offices in the kingdom. Her sister Hemma married Louis the German , a son of Louis the Pious from his first marriage, in 827. Judith was buried at the basilica of St. Martin in Tours .


Research Notes: Child - Conrad I Count of Paris, Count of Auxerre

From Wikipedia, "Conrad I, Count of Auxerre":
Conrad I the Elder (died 876) was the count of several counties, most notably the Aargau and Auxerre, around Lake Constance, as well as Paris from 859 to 862/4. He was also the lay abbot of Saint-Germaine in Auxerre. Conrad's father was Welf.

He was one of the early Welfs, a member of the Bavarian branch, and his sister Judith was the second wife of Louis the Pious. In 858, he and his family \emdash his wife Adelaide of Tours and his sons Hugh and Conrad the Younger \emdash abandoned their sovereign Louis the German and went over to Charles the Bald, Judith's son. They were generously rewarded and Conrad was appointed to many countships. Louis the German confiscated his Bavarian fiefs and lands.

The Miracula Sancti Germani calls Conrad Chuonradus princeps (prince, sovereign), when recording his marriage. By some accounts his wife re-married to Robert the Strong after his death.


Régnier IV Count of Hainaut and Hedwig of France




Husband Régnier IV Count of Hainaut 13

           Born: Abt 950
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           Died: 1013
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         Father: Régnier III Count of Hainaut (Abt 0928-0973) 14
         Mother: 


       Marriage: 996

Events

• Count of Hainaut: 1013.




Wife Hedwig of France 15

           Born: Abt 969
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           Died: After 1013
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         Father: Hugh Capet King of France (0941-0996) 16 17
         Mother: Adelaide de Poitou (Abt 0945-1006) 18 19




Children
1 M Régnier V Count of Hainaut 20

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           Died: After 1039
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         Spouse: Mathilde of Verdun (      -Abt 1039) 21
           Marr: Abt 1015




Ingram Count of Hesbaye and Hedwig of Bavaria




Husband Ingram Count of Hesbaye 22 23

            AKA: Ingeramne Duke of Hesbaye, Ingerman Count of Hesbania
           Born: Abt 752
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           Died:  - <Hesbaye (Belgium)>
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         Father: Gunderland Count of Hasbania (Abt 0732-0773) 24
         Mother: 


       Marriage: 



Wife Hedwig of Bavaria

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Children
1 F Ermengarde of Hesbaye 22 25 26

            AKA: Irmengarde of Hesbaye
           Born: Abt 778 - <Hesbaye (Belgium)>
     Christened: 
           Died: 3 Oct 818 - Angers, (Maine-et-Loire), Anjou, France
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Louis I Holy Roman Emperor and King of the Franks (0778-0840) 5 6 7 8
           Marr: Between 794 and 795 - Garonne, France



Research Notes: Husband - Ingram Count of Hesbaye

From Wikipedia - Ingerman of Hesbaye :

Ingerman, or Ingram was a Frank and count of Hesbaye . His family is known as Robertians . His family line is not entirely sure, but he was probably the son of a Frank named Rodbert. Robert of Hesbaye and Cancor , founder of the Lorsch Abbey were probably his brothers. Landrada, mother of Chrodegang , Archbishop of Metz and first abbot of the Lorsch Abbey, was probably his sister.

Ingerman's daughter is certainly Ermengarde . She married into the Frankish royal family, the Carolingians and was the first wife of King Louis the Pious .


Research Notes: Wife - Hedwig of Bavaria

Source: Wikipedia - Ermengarde of Hesbaye


Research Notes: Child - Ermengarde of Hesbaye

First wife of Louis I.

Source: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3174654&id=I593871904 has b. abt 774

From Wikipedia - Ermengarde of Hesbaye :
Ermengarde, or Irmengarde of Hesbaye (c. 778 - 818 ) was the daughter of Ingram , count of Hesbaye and Hedwig of Bavaria. She was a Frank . Her family is known as the Robertians
Ermengarde married in 794 /795 Louis the Pious , king of Aquitania , king of Franks , king of Italy, ruler of the Holy Roman Empire .
She had six children :
Lothair I , born 795 in Altdorf, Bavaria
Pepin of Aquitaine , born 797
Adelaide, born. ca. 799 . Possible wife of Robert the Strong , possible mother of Odo, Count of Paris and Robert I of France .
Rotrude, born 800 .
Hildegard / Matilda, born ca. 802 . Wife of Gerard, Count of Auvergne , possible mother of Ranulf I of Poitiers .
Louis the German , born ca. 805 .
She died at Angers , France on 3 October 818 . Louis was married to Judith a few years later and became father of Charles the Bald .



Hugh Magnus Count of Paris and Hedwig of Saxony




Husband Hugh Magnus Count of Paris 27

            AKA: Hugh "the Great" Count of Paris
           Born: Abt 895 - Paris, (Île-de-France), France
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           Died: 16 Jun 956 - Dourdan, (Essonne), Île-de-France, France
         Buried:  - St. Denis Basilica, Paris, Île-de-France, France


         Father: Robert I Duke of France (0866-0923) 28
         Mother: Beatrice de Vermandois (0880-After 0931) 11 29


       Marriage: 938 - Mainz or Ingelheim, (Germany)

   Other Spouse: Edhilda (      -Abt 0945) - 926



Wife Hedwig of Saxony 30

           Born:  - <Saxony, (Germany)>
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           Died: 10 May aft 965
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         Father: Henry I "the Fowler" Duke of Saxony, King of the Saxons (0876-0936) 11 31 32
         Mother: Mechtilde of Ringelheim (Between 0890/0896-0968) 11 33




Children
1 M Hugh Capet King of France 16 17




            AKA: Hugues Capet Duke of the Franks, King of France
           Born: Winter 941 - France
     Christened: 
           Died: 24 Oct 996 - Les Juifs, Chartres, (Eure-et-Loire), France
         Buried:  - St. Denis Basilica, Paris, Île-de-France, France
         Spouse: Adelaide de Poitou (Abt 0945-1006) 18 19
           Marr: Summer 968


2 F Beatrice 34

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         Spouse: Frederic I Duc de la Haute Lorraine, Comte de Bar (Abt 0942-0978)



Research Notes: Husband - Hugh Magnus Count of Paris

Count of Paris, Orléans, Vexin and Le Mans, Duke of France.

Source: familysearch.org (Kevin Bradford)


Death Notes: Wife - Hedwig of Saxony

Ancestral Roots gives various death dates - aft. 958 or 10 May aft. 965


Research Notes: Wife - Hedwig of Saxony

2nd or 3rd wife of Hugh Magnus.

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, Baltimore, 2008, Line 141-19


Birth Notes: Child - Hugh Capet King of France

Birth date variously given as Aft. 939, winter 941


Death Notes: Child - Hugh Capet King of France

Another source says d. in Paris.


Research Notes: Child - Hugh Capet King of France

King of France 987-996. First of the Capetian kings of France. Count of Poitou, Count of Orleans.

Source: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, ed. by William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 2008), Line 141-20.

Also Source: familysearch.org (Kevin Bradford)

From Wikipedia - Hugh Capet :

Hugh Capet[1] (c. 940 - 24 October 996 ) was the first King of France of the eponymous Capetian dynasty from his election to succeed the Carolingian Louis V in 987 until his death.

Descent and inheritance
The son of Hugh the Great , Duke of France , and Hedwige of Saxony , daughter of the German king Henry the Fowler , Hugh was born about 940. His paternal family, the Robertians , were powerful landowners in the Île-de-France . His grandfather had been King Robert I and his grandmother Beatrice was a Carolingian, a daughter of Herbert I of Vermandois . King Odo was his great uncle and King Rudolph Odo's son-in-law. Hugh was born into a well-connected and powerful family with many ties to the reigning nobility of Europe.[2] But for all this, Hugh's father was never king. When Rudolph died in 936, Hugh the Great organized the return of Louis d'Outremer , son of Charles the Simple , from his exile at the court of Athelstan of England . Hugh's motives are unknown, but it is presumed that he acted to forestall Rudolph's brother and successor as Duke of Burgundy, Hugh the Black from taking the French throne, or to prevent it from falling into the grasping hands of Herbert II of Vermandois or William Longsword , Count of Rouen .[3]
In 956, Hugh inherited his father's estates and became one of the most powerful nobles in the much-reduced West Frankish kingdom . However, as he was not yet an adult, his uncle Bruno , Archbishop of Cologne , acted as regent . Young Hugh's neighbours made the most of the opportunity. Theobald I of Blois , a former vassal of Hugh the Great, took the counties of Chartres and Châteaudun . Further south, on the border of the kingdom, Fulk II of Anjou , another former client of Hugh the Great, carved out a principality at Hugh's expense and that of the Bretons .[4]...

Election and extent of power
From 978 to 986, Hugh Capet allied himself with the German emperors Otto II and Otto III and with Archbishop Adalberon of Reims to dominate the Carolingian king, Lothair . By 986, he was king in all but name. After Lothair and his son died in early 987, the archbishop of Reims and Gerbert of Aurillac convened an assembly of nobles to elect Hugh Capet as their king....

Dispute with the papacy
Hugh made Arnulf Archbishop of Reims in 988, even though Arnulf was the nephew of the his bitter rival, Charles of Lorraine . Charles thereupon succeeded in capturing Reims and took the archbishop prisoner. Hugh, however, considered Arnulf a turncoat and demanded his deposition by Pope John XV . The turn of events outran the messages, when Hugh captured both Charles and Arnulf and convoked a synod at Reims in June 991, which obediently deposed Arnulf and chose as his successor Gerbert of Aurillac. These proceedings were repudiated by Rome, although a second synod had ratified the decrees issued at Reims. John XV summoned the French bishops to hold an independent synod outside the King's realm, at Aachen , to reconsider the case. When they refused, he called them to Rome, but they protested that the unsettled conditions en route and in Rome made that impossible. The Pope then sent a legate with instructions to call a council of French and German bishops at Mousson , where only the German bishops appeared, the French being stopped on the way by Hugh and Robert.
Through the exertions of the legate, the deposition of Arnulf was finally pronounced illegal. After Hugh's death, Arnulf was released from his imprisonment and soon restored to all his dignities.

Legacy
Hugh Capet died on 24 October 996 in Paris and was interred in the Saint Denis Basilica . His son Robert continued to reign.
Most historians regard the beginnings of modern France with the coronation of Hugh Capet. This is because, as Count of Paris , he made the city his power center. The monarch began a long process of exerting control of the rest of the country from there.
He is regarded as the founder of the Capetian dynasty . The direct Capetians, or the House of Capet , ruled France from 987 to 1328; thereafter, the Kingdom was ruled by collateral branches of the dynasty. All French Kings down to Louis Philippe , and royal pretenders since then, have been members of the dynasty (the Bonapartes styled themselves emperors rather than kings). As of 2007 , the Capetian dynasty is still the head of state in the kingdom of Spain (in the person of the Bourbon Juan Carlos ) and the duchy of Luxembourg , being the oldest continuously reigning dynasty in Europe. Queen Elizabeth II is a direct descendent of Hugh Capet.
Marriage and issue
Hugh Capet married Adelaide , daughter of William Towhead , Count of Poitou . Their children are as follows:
Robert , who became king after the death of his father
Hedwig, or Hathui, who married Reginar IV , Count of Hainaut
Gisela, or Gisele
A number of other daughters are less reliably attested.[10]

References
Bordenove, Georges. Les Rois qui ont fait la France: Hugues Capet, le Fondateur. Paris: Marabout, 1986. ISBN 2-501-01099-X
Gauvard, Claude. La France au Moyen Âge du Ve au XVe siècle. Paris: PUF, 1996. 2-13-054205-0
James, Edward. The Origins of France: From Clovis to the Capetians 500-1000. London: Macmillan, 1982. ISBN 0312588623
Riché, Pierre. Les Carolingiens: Une famille qui fit l'Europe. Paris: Hachette, 1983. 2-012-78551-0
Theis, Laurent. Histoire du Moyen Âge français: Chronologie commentée 486-1453. Paris: Perrin, 1992. 2-87027-587-0
Lewis, Anthony W. "Anticipatory Association of the Heir in Early Capetian France. " The American Historical Review, Vol. 83, No. 4. (Oct., 1978), pp 906-927.



Heinrich I Count of Egisheim




Husband Heinrich I Count of Egisheim 11

           Born: Abt 1018 - <Eguisheim, (Haut-Rhin), Alsace>, France
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           Died: Abt 28 Jun 1065
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         Father: Hugo VII Count of Dagsburg (Abt 0990-Bef 1049) 11
         Mother: Mechtild (Abt 0994-      ) 11


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Wife

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Children
1 M Gerard II Count of Egisheim 11 35

            AKA: Gerhard II Count of Egisheim
           Born: Abt 1050 - <Eguisheim, (Haut-Rhin), Alsace>, France
     Christened: 
           Died: 1098
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Richarde (Abt 1054-      ) 11
           Marr: Abt 1070 - Eguisheim, Haut-Rhin, France




Clark L. Talbot and Helen




Husband Clark L. Talbot

           Born: Abt 1913 - Idaho, United States
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           Died: 1997 ?
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         Father: George M. Talbot (1881-      ) 36
         Mother: Francis B. Griggs (Abt 1889-      ) 37


       Marriage: 

Events

• Occupation: laborer on his father's dairy ranch, 1930, Burbank, Los Angeles, California, United States. 38




Wife Helen (details suppressed for this person)

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Children
1 M Tom Talbot DVM (details suppressed for this person)

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2 M William A. Talbot DDS (details suppressed for this person)

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Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester and Helen of Galloway




Husband Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester 11 39 40 41

            AKA: Roger de Quincey 2nd Earl of Winchester
           Born: Abt 1174 - <Winchester>, Hampshire, England
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           Died: 25 Apr 1264 - England
         Buried:  - <Brackley, Leicestershire>, England


         Father: Saher IV de Quincy 1st Earl of Winchester (1155-1219) 42 43
         Mother: Margaret de Beaumont (Abt 1156-Abt 1235) 11 44 45


       Marriage: 

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• Constable of Scotland:




Wife Helen of Galloway 11 46

            AKA: Elena of Galloway
           Born: Abt 1208 - <Carrick, Ayrshire, Scotland>
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           Died: 21 Nov 1245 - England
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         Father: Alan Lord of Galloway (Abt 1186-1234) 11
         Mother: Helen de L'Isle (Abt 1174-Abt 1212) 11 47




Children
1 F Margaret de Quincy 11 48 49

           Born: 1218 - <Winchester>, Hampshire, England
     Christened: 
           Died: 12 Mar 1280
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         Spouse: Sir William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby (Abt 1193-1254) 11 49 50
           Marr: Abt 1238


2 F Elizabeth de Quincey 40

            AKA: Elisabeth de Quincy
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         Spouse: Alexander Comyn 2nd Earl of Buchan (      -1289) 51


3 F Helen de Quincy of Brackley 11 52

            AKA: Ela de Quincey, Elena de Quincy of Brackley, Ellen de Quincy
           Born: Abt 1222 - <Winchester, Hampshire>, England
     Christened: 
           Died: Sh. Bef. 20 Aug 1296 - England
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Sir Alan La Zouche (Abt 1203-1270) 11 53 54
           Marr: Bef 1242



Research Notes: Husband - Roger de Quincy 2nd Earl of Winchester

From Wikipedia - Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester :

Roger , who succeeded his father as earl of Winchester (though he did not take formal possession of the earldom until after his mother's death);
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From Magna Charta Barons, p. 122:
Roger de Quincey, second son, who had livery of his father's lands, although his elder brother [Robert] was alive in the Holy Land, and succeeded to the earldom of Winchester, and in right of his first wife, daughter of Alan, lord of Galloway, became lord high constable of Scotland. By this lady he had only three daughters,--Margaret, wife of William de Ferrers, Earl of Derby; Elizabeth, wife of Alexander Comyn, Scotch Earl of Buchan; and Ela, wife of Alan, Baron le Zouche, of Ashby. Earl Roger m. secondly, Maud, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford, and widow of Anselme le Mareschall, Earl of Pembroke, and m. thirdly, Alianore, daughter of William de Ferrers, Earl of Derby, and widow of William, Baron de Vaux, who survived him, and m. Roger de Leybourne. Dugdale states that Earl Roger had a fourth daughter, but by which wife it is unknown, named Isabella, with whom a contract of marriage was made by John, son of Hugh de Nevill, for his son Hugh. His lordship d. 1264, when the earldom became extinct, and his great landed possessions devolved upon his daughters, as coheiresses.
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From Wikipedia - Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester :

Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester (1195? - 25 April 1265 ) was a medieval nobleman who was prominent on both sides of the Anglo-Scottish border , as Earl of Winchester and Constable of Scotland .

He was the second son of Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester , and Margaret de Beaumont .

He probably joined his father on the Fifth Crusade in 1219, where the elder de Quincy fell sick and died. His elder brother having died a few years earlier, Roger thus inherited his father's titles and properties. However, he did not take possession of his father's lands until February 1221, probably because he did not return to England from the crusade until then. He did not formally become earl until after the death of his mother in 1235.

Roger married Helen , eldest daughter and co-heiress of Alan, Lord of Galloway . Without legitimate sons to succeed him, Alan's lands and dignities were divided between the husbands of his three daughters, so Roger acquired Alan's position as Constable of Scotland , and one-third of the lordship of Galloway (although the actual title of Lord of Galloway went through Helen's half-sister Devorguilla to her husband John I de Balliol ).

The Galwegians rebelled under Gille Ruadh , not wanting their land divided, but the rebellion was suppressed by Alexander II of Scotland . Roger ruled his portion of Galloway strictly, and the Galwegians revolted again in 1247, forcing Roger to take refuge in a castle. Faced with a siege and little chance of relief, Roger and a few men fought their way out and rode off to seek help from Alexander, who raised forces to again suppress the rebellion.

In the following years Roger was one of the leaders of the baronial opposition to Henry III of England , although he fought for Henry against the Welsh in the 1250s and 1260s.

Following Helen's death in 1245, Roger married Maud de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, 2nd Earl of Hereford , around 1250. Maud died only two years later, and Roger married his third wife, Eleanor Ferrers, daughter of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby the same year.

Roger had three daughters by his first wife, but no sons. His subsequent marriages produced no issue. After his death his estates were divided between the daughters, and the earldom of Winchester lapsed. The three daughters of Roger and Helen of Galloway were:
Helen (also known as Ela or Elena), who married Alan Baron Zouche of Ashby;
Elizabeth (also known as Isabella), who married Alexander Comyn, 2nd Earl of Buchan ;
Margaret, who married William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby (and was thus stepmother to her own stepmother).


Research Notes: Wife - Helen of Galloway

First wife of Roger de Quincy.


Research Notes: Child - Margaret de Quincy

2nd wife of William de Ferrers.


Research Notes: Child - Elizabeth de Quincey

2nd daughter, and coheiress, of Roger de Quincy.


Research Notes: Child - Helen de Quincy of Brackley

3rd daughter, and coheiress, of Roger de Quincy.


Walter I de Bolebec Baron of Styford, Northhants. and Helewise




Husband Walter I de Bolebec Baron of Styford, Northhants. 55

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           Died: Abt 1142
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       Marriage: 

Events

• Living: 1133.




Wife Helewise 56

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Children
1 M Hugh II de Bolebec Lord of Whitchurch, Buckinghamshire 57 58

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           Died: Abt 1165
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Research Notes: Husband - Walter I de Bolebec Baron of Styford, Northhants.

Ancestral Roots line 267-25 states "perh. son of Hugh de Bolebec, liv. 1180"


Death Notes: Child - Hugh II de Bolebec Lord of Whitchurch, Buckinghamshire

Wikipedia has d. abt. 1166


Research Notes: Child - Hugh II de Bolebec Lord of Whitchurch, Buckinghamshire

Source: Wikipedia - Isabel de Bolebec


William III Talvas Count of Alençon & Ponthieu and Hélie of Burgundy




Husband William III Talvas Count of Alençon & Ponthieu 59 60

            AKA: William III of Ponthieu, William Talvas Montgomery le Despencer, William Talvas Montgomery le Despencer
           Born: Abt 1095
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           Died: 30 Jun 1172
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         Father: Robert II de Bellême 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury (1056-1130) 61
         Mother: Agnes (      -After 1100) 59


       Marriage: Abt 1115



Wife Hélie of Burgundy 62 63

            AKA: Alix of Burgundy, Ela of Burgundy, Alix de Bourgogne, Helia Countess Burgundy
           Born: Abt 1080
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           Died: 28 Feb 1141 - Abbey of Perseigne, (Neufchâtel-en-Saosnois), Maine, France
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         Father: Eudes I Duke of Burgundy (Abt 1058-1103) 64 65
         Mother: Sibylle of Burgundy-Ivrea (      -After 1103) 66



   Other Spouse: Bertrand Count of Toulouse (      -1112) 59 - 1095


Children
1 M Guy II of Ponthieu 67

           Born: Abt 1120
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           Died: 1147
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2 F Ela Talvas of Alençon and Ponthieu 11 68 69

            AKA: Adela Talvaise, Ida Talvaise
           Born: Abt 1124 - <Alençon, Normandy>, France
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           Died: 10 Oct 1174 - Bradenstoke Priory, Bradenstoke, Wiltshire, England
         Buried: 4 Dec 1174
         Spouse: Patrick de Salisbury, 1st Earl of Salisbury (Abt 1122-1168) 11 69
           Marr: Abt 1149
         Spouse: William de Warenne 3rd Earl of Surrey and Warenne (1118-1148) 70


3 M Thurston le Despencer 71

           Born: 1122 - London, England
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           Died: 
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         Spouse: Lucia Despencer (Abt 1125-      ) 72



Death Notes: Husband - William III Talvas Count of Alençon & Ponthieu

May have been 20 June 1172 or 30 June 1171.


Research Notes: Husband - William III Talvas Count of Alençon & Ponthieu

From Wikipedia - William III, Count of Ponthieu :

William III of Ponthieu (c. 1095-20 June 1172), son of Robert II of Bellême and Agnes of Ponthieu . He is also called William (II; III) Talvas.

He assumed the county of Ponthieu some time before 1111, upon the death of his mother. His father escaped capture at the battle of Tinchebrai (1106); but later, as envoy for King Louis of France , he went to the English court and was arrested by King Henry of England and was never released from prison. William was naturally driven by this to oppose King Henry, and his allegiance to count Geoffrey of Anjou caused Henry to seize certain of William's castles in Normandy.

Family
His wife was Helie of Burgundy , daughter of Eudes I, Duke of Burgundy . The Gesta Normannorum Ducum says that they had five children, three sons and two daughters: Guy II is called "the eldest son", but the editors doubt this; he assumed the county of Ponthieu during his father Talvas' lifetime, but preceded him in death (Guy II died 1147; William Talvas died 1171); his daughters married Juhel, son of Walter of Mayenne , and William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey .


Death Notes: Wife - Hélie of Burgundy

May have died on 28 Feb 1142.


Research Notes: Wife - Hélie of Burgundy

From Wikipedia - Helie of Burgundy :

Helie of Burgundy (c.1080 - 28 February 1141 ) was the daughter of Eudes I and Sibylla of Burgundy.

In June 1095, she married Bertrand of Toulouse , as his second wife. The two had one son, Pons of Tripoli (c.1098-1137).
Bertrand succeeded his father as Count of Toulouse in 1105, and in 1108, he set out for Outremer to claim his father's rights as Count of Tripoli . Helie accompanied him on this expedition, which resulted in the capture of Tripoli in 1109; shortly after, their nephew, William-Jordan died of wounds, giving Bertrand an undisputed claim to Tripoli.

Bertrand died in 1112, and Pons succeeded him in Tripoli. Helie returned to France, where she married William III of Ponthieu in 1115. They had twelve children, including two named Robert, two named William, and two named Enguerrand:
Guy II of Ponthieu (d. 1147)
William (d. aft. 1166)
Robert
Robert de Garennes (d. aft. 1171), a monk
William
Enguerrand
Enguerrand
Mabile
John I, Count of Alençon (d. 1191)
Clemence (d. bef. 1189), married Juhel, Sire de Mayenne
Philippa (d. bef. 1149)
Ela (d. 10 October 1174 ), married first William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey , and second Patrick of Salisbury, 1st Earl of Salisbury

Helie died on 28 February 1141 , in the Abbey de Perseigne.


Research Notes: Child - Guy II of Ponthieu

From Wikipedia - Guy II of Ponthieu :

Guy II of Ponthieu (c. 1120-1147), the son of William III of Ponthieu and Helie of Burgundy, succeeded his father as Count of Ponthieu during William's lifetime. He died on the Second Crusade and was succeeded by his son John I of Ponthieu .


Robert "the Old" Duke of Burgundy and Hélie




Husband Robert "the Old" Duke of Burgundy 73 74

            AKA: Robert I Duke of Burgundy, Robert Capet Duke of Burgundy
           Born: Abt 1011
     Christened: 
           Died: 21 Mar 1076 - <Burgundy, (France)>
         Buried: 


         Father: Robert II "the Pious" King of France (0972-1031) 75 76
         Mother: Constance of Provence (Abt 0986-1032) 77 78


       Marriage: Abt 1033

   Other Spouse: Ermengarde of Anjou (Abt 0952-0992) 79 80 - Abt 1048

   Other Spouse: Hildegarde of Metz (      -      ) 81



Wife Hélie 82

            AKA: Eleanor
           Born: 1016
     Christened: 
           Died: 22 April after 1055
         Buried: 


         Father: Dalmas I Sire of Semur-en-Brionnais (      -      ) 81
         Mother: Aremburge (      -      ) 81


Events

• Repudiated: 1046.


Children
1 M Henry of Burgundy 11 83 84

            AKA: Henri Comte de Bourgogne
           Born: Abt 1035 - <Bourgogne, (Champagne), (France)>
     Christened: 
           Died: Abt 1071
         Buried: 
         Spouse: < > [Not Sibylle of Barcelona] (      -      )


2 F Constance of Burgundy 85 86

           Born: 1046 - <Burgundy, (France)>
     Christened: 
           Died: 1092
         Buried: 
         Spouse: Alfonso VI "the Brave" of Castile, King of Castile and Leon (Bef 1040-1109) 11 87 88
           Marr: 1081



Research Notes: Husband - Robert "the Old" Duke of Burgundy

Duke of Burgundy from 1032 to his death in 1076.

From Wikipedia - Robert I, Duke of Burgundy :

Robert I Capet (1011 - March 21 , 1076 ) was duke of Burgundy between 1032 to his death. Robert was son of King Robert II of France and brother of Henry I .
In 1025 , with the death of his eldest brother Hugh Magnus, he and Henry rebelled against their father and defeated him, forcing him back to Paris . In 1031 , after the death of his father the king, Robert participated in a rebellion against his brother, in which he was supported by his mother, Queen Constance d'Arles . Peace was only achieved when Robert was given Burgundy (1032 ).

Throughout his reign, he was little more than a robber baron who had no control over his own vassals, whose estates he often plundered, especially those of the Church. He seized the income of the diocese of Autun and the wine of the canons of Dijon . He burgled the abbey of St-Germain at Auxerre . In 1055 , he repudiated his wife, Helie of Semur, and assassinated her brother Joceran and murdered her father, his father-in-law, Lord Dalmace I of Semur , with his own hands. In that same year, the bishop of Langres , Harduoin, refused to dedicate the church of Sennecy so as not "to be exposed to the violence of the duke."
His first son, Hugh, died in battle at a young age and his second son, Henry , also predeceased him. He was succeeded by Henry's eldest son, his grandson, Hugh I .

Family
He married his first wife, Helie of Semur , about 1033 , and repudiated her in 1055. Robert and Helie had five children:
Hugh (1034-1059), killed in battle
Henry (1035-ca.1074)
Robert (1040-1113), poisoned; married Violante of Sicily, daughter of Roger I of Sicily
Simon (1045-1087)
Constance (1046-1093), married Alfonso VI of Castile
From his second wife, Ermengarde of Anjou, daughter of Fulk III of Anjou , he had one daughter:
Hildegard (c.1056-1104), married Duke William VIII of Aquitaine

Sources
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Death Notes: Wife - Hélie

Died a nun


Death Notes: Child - Henry of Burgundy

Ancestral Roots has d. 27 Jan. 1066/7 and d. 27 Jan.1066/1074. Wikipedia has d. abt. 1071.


Research Notes: Child - Henry of Burgundy

His wife was NOT named Sibylle of Barcelona, daughter of Berenger Ramon I, according to Wikipedia.

From Wikipedia - Henry of Burgundy :

Henry of Burgundy (1035 - c. 1071 ) was the son and heir of Robert I , duke of Burgundy . He died shortly before his father and failed to succeed in Burgundy. The name of his wife is unknown (that it was Sibil has been discredited) as is her origin, although a connection to the Counts of Barcelona has been hypothesized. Their children were:
Hugh I, Duke of Burgundy (1057-1093)
Eudes I, Duke of Burgundy (1058-1103)
Robert, bishop of Langres (1059-1111)
Helie, a nun (b. 1061)
Beatrice (b. 1063), married Guy I, count of Vignory
Reginald, abbot of St Pierre (1065-1092)
Henry, Count of Portugal (1066-1112), who became a vassal of León and ruler of the county of Portugal in 1093; his son would be Afonso Henriques , first king of Portugal


Death Notes: Child - Constance of Burgundy

Wikipedia has d. 1093


Research Notes: Child - Constance of Burgundy

Second wife of Alfonso VI.

From Wikipedia - Constance of Burgundy :

Constance of Burgundy (1046 - 1093), was the daughter of Duke Robert I of Burgundy and Helie de Semur-en-Brionnais .
She built a monastery in Burgos for Adelelmus in 1079. She married Alfonso VI of Castile on May 8 , 1079 . They had two children:
Urraca of Castile (1079 - March 8 , 1126 ).
Elvira of Castile. Considered to have died young.


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23 Wikipedia.org, Ingerman of Hesbaye.

24 Website:, http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3174654&id=I593875389.

25 Wikipedia.org, Ermengarde of Hesbaye.

26 Website - Genealogy, http://www.smokykin.com/ged/f001/f98/a0019865.htm.

27 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Lines 53-19, 101-19, 141-19 (Hedwig of Saxony).

28 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Lines 48-18, 53-18, 101-18.

29 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 48-18, 53-18 (Robert I), 101-18 (Robert I).

30 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 141-19, 53-19 (Hugh Magnus).

31 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 141-18, 147-18.

32 Website - Genealogy, http://www.smokykin.com/ged/f002/f01/a0020132.htm.

33 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 141-18 (Henry I), 142-17 (Henry I), 148-18 (Henry I).

34 Wikipedia.org, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigeric_of_Lotharingia.

35 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 144-24 (Reinald I).

36 Personal Documents, DeWayne B. Johnson family documents & photographs.

37 FamilySearch Historical Files (www.familysearch.org),
"United States Census, 1930", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XCFJ-HPK : 8 December 2015), George M Talbot, 1930.

38 FamilySearch Historical Files (www.familysearch.org), "United States Census, 1930", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XCFJ-HPK : 8 December 2015), George M Talbot, 1930.

39 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-28, 57-28.

40 Browning, Charles Henry, The Magna Charta Barons and their American Descendants (Philadelphia, 1898.), p. 122.

41 Wikipedia.org, Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester.

42 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-27 (Margaret de Beaumont).

43 Wikipedia.org, Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester.

44 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 53-27.

45 Wikipedia.org, Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford; Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester.

46 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 38-27, 53-28 (Roger de Quincy).

47 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 38-26 (Alan).

48 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 57-29, 127-30 (William de Ferrers).

49 Wikipedia.org, William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby.

50 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 127-30, 189-4 (Sir Robert de Muscegros).

51 Wikipedia.org, Alexander Comyn, Earl of Buchan.

52 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 38-28.

53 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 38-38 (Helen de Quincy).

54 Wikipedia.org, Baron Zouche.

55 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 267-25.

56 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 267-25 (Walter I de Bolebec).

57 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 267-26.

58 Wikipedia.org, Isabel de Bolebec.

59 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 108-25 (Hélie of Burgundy).

60 Wikipedia.org, William III, Count of Ponthieu.

61 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), ine 108-25 (Hélie of Burgundy).

62 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 108-25.

63 Wikipedia.org, Helie of Burgundy.

64 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 108-24.

65 Wikipedia.org, Eudes I, Duke of Burgundy.

66 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 108-24 (Eudes I).

67 Wikipedia.org, Guy II of Ponthieu.

68 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 108-26, 83-25 (William de Warenne).

69 Wikipedia.org, Patrick of Salisbury, 1st Earl of Salisbury.

70 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 83-25.

71 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi, http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cbryant6&id=I019011.

72 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi, http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dunova73&id=I3609.

73 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 108-22, 113-22.

74 Wikipedia.org, Robert I, Duke of Burgundy.

75 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 101-21.

76 Wikipedia.org, Robert II of France.

77 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 141A-21, 101-21 (Robert II).

78 Wikipedia.org, Constance of Arles.

79 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 119A-21.

80 http://www.familysearch.org, Compact Disc #125 Pin #874597 Maitland Dirk Brower.

81 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 108-22 (Robert the Old).

82 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 108-22 (Robert the Old), 113-22 (Robert the Old).

83 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 112-23, 108-23.

84 Wikipedia.org, Henry of Burgundy.

85 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 113-23.

86 Wikipedia.org, Constance of Burgundy.

87 Wikipedia.org, Alfonso VI of León and Castile.

88 Weis, Frederick Lewis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr; William R. Beall and Kaleen E. Beall, eds, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (8th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2008.), Line 113-23 (Constance of Burgundy).


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